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Ashtanga Jump back workshop from Peg Mulqueen, Rice bowl from Mike and a Shala trial run

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While on Manju's Led Primary at Stillpoint Yoga Sunday, Mike ( who occasionally comments here) came up and said hello, thanked me for my blog and gave me two of these wonderful rice bowls. Mike it turns out is a potter.

Thank you again Mike, from the both of us, that was really kind of you.

I love the design of them ( bit like a bamboo screen), M. too but she raves about how light they are, I guess the lighter the bowl the more rice M. can put in it without it becoming too heavy to hold while eating.

Mike says these are stoneware pots too so they can go in the microwave and dishwasher

Couldn't wait any longer to use them last nigh so made some rice. No idea what this is called but M. would make it in Japan. Steaming hot bowl of rice, throw in an fresh egg yolk, a little sesame oil and Soy, stir it around to cook the egg and then shake on some sprinkles ( these ones have bonito) on top.

Not as nice as when M. makes it but still good, a little sake to celebrate the bowls. No I shouldn't be using our goban as a table but house is still in transition after shifting the rooms around for the new shala.



Here's a link to Mike's site, he describes hit more of a 'serious hobby' than a living .

Have to post this one because M. loves it so much and wants me to put an order in, let me know next time you make a bath of these garlic pots Mike.



"I started making these pots in 1993. My mum had bought a simple terracotta garlic storage pot and dropped it the first day she had it. I had not long been making pots but I thought I ought to be able to do something and this is the design I came up with. The porosity of the unglazed earthenware clay and the small holes ensure that the garlic doesn't sweat and go mouldy.
I've been making them in small batches ever since. The making process is quite time consuming. Each one is thrown on the wheel and then the shape altered and carved with a wooden tool whilst still soft. The lid is cut from the base and I then paint three or four layers of a white slip (liquid clay) on the outside and rims. The red clay shows through in places, giving an interesting surface. It has been suggested that I could slip-cast them - but the point is that I like the way they are all individual!
Because this is the only thing I make in red clay I have to clean up the wheel and all my tools before and after making them, so I just do a batch every so often. They are popular so it is best to check with me that I have some before travelling".
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Practice report/Shala trial run

Making the most of these last couple of days before the shala opens for Morning Mysore Monday.

This week is a trial run, up at 4am to make M.'s Lunch and have my Nespresso before heading upstairs for my own practice.

No excuses now, time to reclaim my 2nd series. After the disruptive three month illness I focused on getting my Primary back for Manju's TT in Crete last month (although I ended up doing 2nd series three, or was it four times on the course), then figured I might as well stick with Primary until after Manju's Led primary at Stillpoint Yoga Sunday....., then for the first couple of 4am starts in the new shala, familiar Primary made sense.... I've run out of excuses, back to 2nd series it is.

Thankfully Manju stresses that you shouldn't perhaps neglect Primary once you move on to 2nd or neglect Primary and 2nd for that matter if you move on to Advanced series, so I'll be splitting my week between Primary and Intermediate series from now on, three of each.

This morning I practiced standing then paschimottanasana and purvattanasana before moving on to pasasana. Another interesting thing about Manju's approach, he seems to include paschimottanasana and purvattanasana when practising 2nd series. Must ask him about it, or if anyone is taking a course with him over the next few months and notices the same thing and gets the chance to ask, please let me know what he says.

I like the idea.

Anyway, took it easy, went through 2nd up to Laghu vajrasana but decided to leave kapo for a couple of days, know I can do a toe grab but thought I'd ease my way back to a full 2nd.

Instead of  the leg behind head postures I just practised the Janu's then  the kurmasanas and baddha konasana in place of Dwipada sirsasana and yoga nidra, again, no rush.

Carried on through 2nd up to a 25 breath Pincha then called it a day, had to choose between completing the series or moving on to finishing and leaving time for pranayama and chanting....no contest, pranayama and chanting every time..

Nice practice. Finished at 6am time for a quick shower. Next week I'll be opening the door at 6:15 but for now I went back into the shala to find my beloved going through her Sury's in the rainbow onesie I bought her for Christmas) Went through standing with her, few suggestions here and there.... she has to start getting ready from seven so we skipped the rest of Swenson's 30 min short form and settled into a few breaths in half lotus padmasana/jana mudra.

Yesterday's practice
M: "But David Swenson says.....".

My fault, I had put David's Primary series on her iPod along with some chanting, I don't dare give her Richard!

PEG"S JUMPING BACK WORKSHOP VIDEO

I started this blog five years ago with a jump backs and you know I can't resist a good jump back video, feels like old times.

Here's Peg (Peggy Mulqueen )with a nice video of a recent workshop. What I particularly like about it is that at the end she includes approaches to jumping back from other teachers. I think this is important, my own jump back epiphany was when I realised that Lino Miele's was not the ONLY way to jump back. I'd been trying to lift up like Lino way back then, I still can't lift up like him but I have a respectable jump back and through now.


Try all the different approaches to jumping back, work with each one for a while, really work with each method but chances are different aspects of the different approaches will end up coming together in a way that works for you and your body type, one size does not fit all here....or anywhere else in the practice perhaps.

And of course it's not important (except to you and for a long time me), find a half way stage perhaps that you can make nice and smooth while you work on building strength and bringing the elements together. Good to lift the hips and backside off the ground at the end of all the seated postures then do your jump back variation. Decide on a couple of postures to give it a really good try every practice ( after Janusirsasana perhaps and especially after the konasana's). Same with jumping through, do your variation but try and hold yourself up for just a moment before lowering back down...it'll come....or not, if not you just make your jump back variation as smooth as smooth can be (Nancy Gilgoff supposedly didn't jump back for years ). I ended up trading my fancy floaty version for a delicate little Sharath one that seems to use the least energy possible, I'm happy with that.

Ashtanga Pranayama and Meditation, Chanting from Manju (also Sharath) and my favourite chant from Ramaswami.

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I mentioned after the recent TT with Manju that he taught Pranayama and Chanting at the end of  practice, at the end of Primary, at the end of his led 2nd series ( with the Sanskrit count). He referred to this as a traditional practice.

But was that just because we were on a TT course, supposedly experienced practitioners? No, on Sunday I attended Manju's Led primary at Stillpoint yoga, this was open to everybody and there it was again, at the end of practice, in the final padmasana, we practiced nadi shodana pranayama with kumbhaka followed by chanting. A traditional Ashtanga Practice. You don't have to practice that way of course, you can do utpluthi at the end before laying back in savasana. I prefer the pranayama and chanting option.

It's my own preferred approach to practice. Ramaswami put it like this, and I think he was loosly quoting Krishnamacharya here, "Why clean the room (asana/pranayama) and then not live in it ( meditation). 

A note about the chanting.

Ramaswsami refers to chanting here as Dharana, it's one of the meditative limbs of Ashtanga,  concentration on an object (next, according to Patanjali you would move on to concentration without an object). The object might be an icon, the breath, or here a mantra. Ramaswami would have us practice Japa mantra meditation, repeating a short mantra over and over, Manju happens to have has us chant a number of Shanti (peace mantras). I guess you could replace your own preferred approach to meditation practice here if you not yet comfortable with chanting ( I wasn't for the longest time)

On the TT course in Crete during one of the Mysore self practice sessions I would hear a couple of students (who had attended Manju's course before) quietly chanting to themselves, almost under the breath. I listened carefully, shanti mantra's. Was it disturbing to my own self-practice, not at all, quite the opposite, wonderful actually and later in the course, in my own self practice, I too would finish with pranayama and the few Shanti mantras that I had already memorised.

Try to attend one of Manju's courses the finishing section is the wonderful. This from my post on the Led at Stillpoint yoga sunday.


"Best of all was at the end of the practice, Manju skips utpluthi/tolasana and goes straight into pranayama, some nadi shodana with and without kumbhaka also sitali and then the chanting. I missed Niko from Crete and his nice, big, booming, confident chant that I could hide behind a little or follow along with in those lines I wasn't sure of. It was quieter here and we had no hand-out of the chants to help either, instead we had to listen carefully to Manju as he would break the chants down into phrases. Some parts went better than others of course, Manju is so relaxed that you feel relaxed too, you're going to get some bits wrong, it gets better as you tune in. I need/want to work more on those later chants on his Shanti mantra CD though, first few I'm OK on". And that was that, Savasana.

Manju's finishing routine seems to go something like this.

Shirsasana ( long stay here)
Ardha chandrasana (still in headstand but bringing the legs down to parallel with the floor, an inverted dandasana if you like, lower and raise three times).
Balasana
Badha padmasana
Yoga mudra ( and Manju pointed out it should really be the top of the head not the chin on the mat)
Parvatasana (mountain pose still in full lotus - this is the final posture on the Nancy Gilgoff 1974 syllabus and on David Williams poster). It's in two stages, in the first the arms go up with the finger interlaced then you you bend forward, head to the mat, arms outstretched above your head, hands still interlinked. Stay for a number of breaths then raise back up to seated and lower the arms.
Padmasana -  Bhairava/Bhairavii Mudra - Palms of hands together (in the lap), Men right palm up, women left palm up. Bruumadhya drishti, dash dirgha recheck puuraka
Padmasana - Chin Mudra - the familiar hands to knees, thumb and first finger joined, nassaagra drishti, dash dirgha recheck puuraka

This is where Manju brings in the pranayama and meditation practice ( chanting)

Chant the invocation to Gayatri ( number 10 on the sheet below )

Take the hand to the nose, thumb on one side, first two fingers curled into the palm, third finger in the other nostril. ( manju has a method here where you can change which hand you use for this so that you always remember which side to exhale out of after the kumbhaka - I've never found remembering a problem.

Pranayama practice ( see video below): this might change depending on time and inclination. You might practice some suryabheda, followed by chandrabheda, nadi shodana, nadi shodana with kumbhaka, and perhaps sitali ( curled toungue)  or sitaki ( through teeth). There tends to be three to five deep ujjayi breaths between the different pranayama's. Sitali is a cooling pranayama so you only tend to do it in summer. Some days we practiced most of these other days just a little nadi shodana.

Chant the gayatri mantra  - number 11 on the sheet below. So with Manju after the pranayama you chant gayatri. manju has you counting on your finger the length of the kumbhaka, (the breath retention). With the palm loosely open the thumb moves to each joint of the fingers. manju tended to take a count of 12 or 15 i believe. With Ramaswami we would chant the pranayama mantra, basically the longer version of the Gayatri mantra below ( there is a shorted version of gayatri), this is still the way I tend to practice.

Meditation practice (Dharana, concentration on an object). As mentioned above, with Ramaswami we would practice japa mantra meditation, chanting a short mantra over and over silently. With Manju we would chant a number of Shanti ( peace mantras - see one of the below, number 9 ). The mantra's can be chanted out loud, quietly to ourselves or I imagine mentally.

Savasana - Manju would then have us lay down in  savasana. he doesn't seem to include utpluthi/tolasana here. the idea i think is that we are relaxed after the finsihing sequence of the long stays in shoulder stands and headstand, nice and satvic, so we the perfect state for pranayama and meditation practice. It makes sense to then go straight from meditation into our savasana. I guess you get to practice tolasana after badha konasana, before jumping back in lotus,  if you really miss it.

I love this approach to practice. Manju calls it a a very traditional practice, how his father taught him. I imagine it's also how Krishnamacharya taught manju's father and also I imagine very similar to how Krishnamacharya seems to have taught Ramaswmi in his later years, finishing each lesson/practice session with pranaymama and meditation/chanting.

This page is from Manju's book written with Greg Tebb - I've added my review of manju's DVD, BOOK, CD bundle at the end of the post


I tried to transcribe the session above but it's difficult to hear, this is what I came up with ( inc. some additional notes in brackets) to assist in your own listening. Let me know if you hear it differently. As I said, Manju approached the pranayama practice a little differently each time, it doesn't seem to be a fixed routine/sequence although there does seem to be an order. If you're going to practice suryabheda that would come before chandra bheda ( sury is sun, warm) and these would come before nadi shodana. you would practice nadhi shodana without kumbhaka before bringing in kumbhaka and there would be a few Ujjayi breaths in between the different pranayamas.

Loose transcription of the video above


(Sit with ) Back straight
Make Chin mudra (right hand here - first and second finger curled in towards the palm)
Press your left nostril (with 3rd and 4th fingers)
(Lean forward on each exhale)

(Nadi Shodana pranayama- alternate nostril breathing)

(1st cycle)
Inhale ( through the right) (come back up on each inhale) Start of the cycle
Exhale on the left ( switch to press right nostril with thumb)

(2nd cycle)
Inhale left
Exhale right

(3rd cycle )
Inhale right
Exhale left

(4th cycle)
Inhale left
Exhale right

(Nadi Shodana with Kumbhaka)

(1st cycle)
Inhale right
Kumbhaka ( hold breath, engage bandhas ) ( can drop hands, , count to 15 on fingers)
Exhale right

(2nd cycle)
Inhale right
Kumbhaka
exhale left

(3rd cycle)
Inhale left
kumbhaka
Slowly exhale on the right side

(Repeat 8-15 times)

Sit back and end with five Ujjayi breathing.

3:35 Sitali

Here's Manju teaching the chanting of shanti mantras in Encinitas last year. Thank you Amanda Manfredi for posting this


Sharath too posted a pranayama video recently from Stockholm. which included kumbhaka ( breath retention) and even uddiyana Kriya.



Ramaswami teaching chanting.

If you want to learn to chant then you can get hold of Manju's cd of shanti mantras or hi DVD which has him going through the chants phrase by phrase with a class of students (see the review below)

Or you could have a look at Ramaswami's chanting page. He teaches chanting in the way that Krishnamacharya taught him, breaking down the chants into phrases and then building them back up line by line until you have the full mantra. He chants the first phrase or line then chants it very softly twice more so you can follow with your own repetition, lovely approach.

Have a look at Ramaswami's Chanting page which has a number of downloads including a yoga sutra chanting tutorial
http://vinyasakrama.com/Chants

Here's a link to the pranayama chant
http://vinyasakrama.com/mp3s/Learn%20Pranayama%20Mantra%20Chant.mp3

This is how I learned to chant, something I never saw myself doing a few years back. I put some of Ramaswamis chants on my iPod and listened to them cycling to work. I would then find myself humming them all day, singing little bits here and there. The first chant I leanrned was the pranayama mantra i.e., the longer gayatri mantra above and then I learned a Ganesha prayer in Tamil and Patanjali prayers. Then I was hooked.

Before the Tamil Ganesha prayer and Patanjali prayer Ramaswami often used to chant something else, I loved it but never got to learn it or find a transcription. Ramaswami has just posted this group of mantras in a Youtube video and I've made a practice sheet to go with it, enjoy.




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My earlier review of Manju's Book, DVD, CD

Manju Jois Bundle, DVD, Training manual and chanting CD - first look

The Manju Jois 'Bundle' arrived from Ashtanga.Com.

Took Six days from confirmation of order to delivery, USA to UK. Only regular first class post too, not express or anything special.

I've been thinking very seriously about taking Manju's workshop this year, thought I'd take a look at his kit. Only thing is, I'm so into my practice as it is at the moment with it's slow, slow breathing that I don't really have much inclination to do a straight Ashtanga anymore.

At least I didn't......


So very quick first thoughts, another fuller review to come.

BOOK - Ashtanga Yoga Training Manual Manju Jois and Greg Tebb ( this is was designed with Manju's TT's, Intensives and workshops in mind.


A little disappointed in the quality, bit cheaply produced it has to be said, although I like the layout (mostly, at times things get a little bunched up). Good to have a ring binder although it's not as strong as the one on David Swenson's book, get the feeling it would be falling apart towards the end of a workshop.

I was hoping for something a little special, a little different ( not sure what I was hoping for exactly) but it's just the pose and the instructions/count etc. which seems pretty standard. I mentioned I like the layout, pretty much a posture a page with a space for notes. I'm going to scan mine and then paste in Krishnamacharya's instructions for the same postures for comparison, should be interesting.

The nice touch is the quotes from Hathayogapradipka, Geranda Samhita, Yoga Rahasya etc.

One interesting thing to pick out, in the majority of postures we find, as in the page above for Janu Sirsasana

"Dasha diirgha rechaka puuraka" - 10 long inhalations and exhalations.


DVD - Ashtanga Yoga Workshop (*90 minutes)
*2 min for opening chant and 15 minutes in padmasana chanting rather than Savasana at the end of the practice so about 75 minutes for the actual primary series


This was a nice surprise. It has Manju Leading a class with the chant but get this, everybody repeats every word of the count including the names of all the postures, great way to learn and practice the count.

I'd heard Manju did this on his workshops, really looking forward to practicing along with it.

I mentioned that in the book we find...

"Dasha diirgha rechaka puuraka" - 10 long inhalations and exhalations.

I checked the video to see how long we get for those ten, long, inhalations and exhalations, about 25-30 seconds, give or take a second or two. Interestingly, Manju doesn't count the breaths ( leaving that up to you) I liked that, it means I can get three longish, half decent breaths in but somebody else might choose, five shorter ones...or ten pants.

Here are some comparisons to put it in perspective, all for when in Janu Sirsasana at dwe ( this is hardly fair though as the time varies slightly in the different postures, especially in the led classes of Manju and his father ( it's guess work in Led), for example Manju left them in the preceding posture for 30 seconds), the demo's are a different case. gives an idea though of the general pace of the practice.

David Robson - 40 seconds!
Richard Freeman - 29 seconds
Manju Jois - 25 seconds
Lino - 24 seconds
John Scott - 20 seconds
Kino - 20 seconds
Sri K. Pattabhi Jois - 20 seconds
David Swenson - 19 seconds
Sharath - 13 seconds

What me?
Grimmly - 90 seconds, but that's really only because of the 10 long inhalations and exhalations.

So the stay in the actual posture is generous but overall it's taken pretty fast and you have to go some to keep up, 75 minutes isn't long, the last fifteen minutes of the DVD's 90 Minute run time is taken up with chanting.

UPDATE: A comment came in from Sereaux on Dave Robson's Drum Beat Primary


"I've been practicing periodically to David Robson’s mp3 Ashtanga Yoga’s Primary Series to the Steady Beat of a Drum. It goes to a 4 second inhale and a 4 second exhale – so 5 breaths equates out to 40 seconds. Not quite 90, but nearly double the others. It has helped to keep me to recognize when and where I’m rushing – also helped me stay focused on the breath. I always tend to rush the inhale. All Sanskrit counting. Whole practice takes 109 minutes with opening chant, 3 Sury A, 3 Sury B, and only two paschimottanasana variations.
Sereaux"



Chant CD - Shanti mantras



Consists of the opening and closing chant and then the Shanti mantras, at slow and regular speed. Nice and clear, I could practice with these although I prefer Ramaswami's traditional way of teaching chants.


There's also a pdf with the chants and translations.

Was a little underwhelmed when I first opened the box but am getting quite excited now to getting stuck in and even more tempted by the thought of a his workshop.

UPDATE 7/5/2013
Coming back to this post three months later.

I mentioned in the post that I was quite wrapped up with my 'slow Ashtanga' practice based on Krishnamacharya's Yoga Makaranda at the time the Manju bundle arrived. Recently I've shifted back to a pretty standard Ashtanga practice in the mornings ( VK and pranayama practice in the evening slot) and that has a lot to with Manju's DVD. I like that Manju doesn't count through the actual asana on the DVD, this means I can get in three long slow breaths while in the posture, this works quite well. I can get through the whole series without sacrificing (my approach to) the breath too much. I've been practicing along with the DVD on my days off, Sanskrit count getting inside my head, enjoying it. Rest of the week I take it a little slower still but not by much, add in a few extra VK postures, alonger stay or two ( kind of weaving the Vinyasa krama and Yoga Makaranda influences into my ashtanga practice) but not too many to upset the balance. Wish Manju did a led 2nd Cd or DVD as I've moved back to 2nd series in the mornings.

I like it so much now, as well as the TT videos in the post above, (and I've always felt drawn to Manju's approach to the practice in general, as suggested by interviews and workshop reports) that I'm finalising the logistics for attending Manju's week long TT in Crete, in August this year (finally a workshop in our quiet time at work). Excited.

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Manju's website


Link to Kristina Karitinou website 

Links to the extended Ashtanga yoga Greece family 

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Tomorrow I start passing on/sharing practice in the new shala, A 121 Vinyasa Krama class tomorrow evening and then Ashtanga, morning mysore from Monday, will be a little busy so may not post for a while, at least until I settle into the routine of it all. 

Yoga History, Mark Singleton and Krishnamacharya on the distinction between his 'traditional yoga' and The international physical culture movement

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Influenced by the International Physical culture movement?

I linked to a Q. and A. on Richard Freeman's Yoga Workshop site this morning. The questioner asks..


"Recently I have started studying Ashtanga at Jois Yoga studio in Encinitas. In the learning process, I found the following book: Yoga Body: The Origins of Modern Posture Practice by Mark Singleton.
In shedding light on the evolution and synthesis of yoga, the author does quite a bit of research. From gleaning the reviews, it appears that Singleton debunks a lot of "myth" about where yoga really came from. Here’s a quote from an article in LA Times:
“Mark Singleton has written a sweeping and nuanced account of the origins and development of modern postural yoga in early twentieth-century India and the West, arguing convincingly that yoga as we know it today does not flow directly from the Yoga Sutras or India’s medieval hatha yoga traditions, but rather emerged out of a confluence of practices, movements and ideologies, ranging from contortionist acts in carnival sideshows, British Army calisthenics and women’s stretching exercises to social Darwinism, eugenics, and the Indian nationalist movement...an ancient tradition was reinvented against the backdrop of India’s colonial experience.”
What are your thoughts? And how does this connect with the origins of Ashtanga Vinyasa?"

Trang


I really want to quote all of Richard's response but that hardly seems fair, so here is the link so you can head over and read it at his place.

http://yogaworkshop.com/blog/2013/09/07/yoga-history/

OK I'll  just quote Richard's the last paragraph

"It is important to note that the practice of asana is well documented in ancient texts. It is not strictly a modern invention as has been misinterpreted by some when reading Singleton’s work. In good Ashtanga vinyasa yoga and in good yoga in general, we are working asana in direct relationship to balancing and cleansing of the nadis, the proper practice of bhanda, mudra and pranayama. More and more practice reveals that these things are the purpose and primary focus of asana, and when done well lead directly into Raja yoga and deep contemplative practice".



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In any other field there would be tens (hundreds?) of other 'scholarly' texts questioning Mark Singleton's conclusions in Yoga Body, other yoga studies scholars presenting their own theories or take on any new scraps of evidence they've come up with that they then rework in their Phd thesis. Some will get picked up by publishers and, in the modern climate, will get reworked, sexed up, have their day. Unfortunately ( or fortunately) there don't seem to be that many Yoga Studies departments around, so we pretty much just get Mark's book and perhaps a handful of others in the public eye. This is a shame, Yoga Body is an excellent book, although I'm not convinced by much of it.  Mark could do with somebody challenging his interpretation of evidence, going respectfully hammer and tongs at some colloquium which would allow him bring out other aspects of his work that perhaps get overlooked.

Don't get me wrong, big fan of Mark and his book, great read and made me think and question the practice I love, it still does.

Whenever I come across reference to the Yoga body discussion, the argument that Modern postural yoga owes much to the international physical culture movement I'm reminded of a couple of sections in Krishnamacharya's own books from the 30's and 40', Yoga Makaranda ( 1934) and Yogasanagalu (1941). Krishnamacharya was keen to stress the distinction between what he saw as the traditional Yoga he was presenting of which asana was one small element and the modern forms of exercise being introduced into India.

This of course doesn't refute Mark's claims necessarily but Krishnamacharya clearly thought there was a distinction, however much the 'traditional' practice he was presenting was reintroduced/repopularised on the coattails of the  enthusiasm for health and fitness prevalent at the time. My own suspicion was that it was a response to the introduction of modern 'foreign' approaches to health and fitness, along the lines of  "We don't need that, we have our traditional yoga arts....now where did we put them".


Here are what I consider the relevant quotes from Krishnamacharya's texts.

"Q. 9.Why don’t we move our limbs faster like they do in today’s physical exercises such as drill and sports? A.9 If you move your limbs quickly like they do in drill and sports, it will lead to imbalance in blood circulation and movement of pranavayu and will lead to sthoola kaya and vakra kaya body type instead of samakaya, but may also develop crooked limbs". Krishnamacharya Yogasanagalu (1941)

Also this from Yoga makaranda  (1934)

"But we cannot say that people outside India are practising yogabhyasa and not just some form of physical exercise. I don’t know about their practice earlier, but their practice nowadays may resemble or be based on yogabhayasa as noted by people who go abroad."

and, again from Yoga Makaranda

 "These people then ridicule yogavidya and their sanatana dharma, and start doing physical exercises that are contrary to our country’s ahara guna (diet), jala guna (water) and vayu guna (climate) and waste a lot of money on this. Who is at fault?"

also this long section, yep 1934 again and Yoga Makaranda

 "Nowadays, we follow Western exercises and methodology, think that this is easy, spend a lot of money on it, procure expensive equipment from abroad and exercise with no consistency or routine. This is not an achievement of the body but a bodiless eort or a body destroying eort. We did not make up these names. We realize this from the kinds of kriyas that are being followed by the practitioner of these exercises. Moreover, such exercises will give proper blood circulation to some parts of the body while reducing the blood flow in others. This will result in poor strength, and eventually will cause paralysis and lead to an early, untimely death.
To make things worse, when we observe the practitioners of the kinds of physical exercises that exist nowadays, they make loud noises while practising and we notice that they breathe through their mouths. This is very dangerous. It is a danger to our lives. We have life only as long as prana vayu exists in our body. Therefore, such exercises are not suitable for people in our country. It is more intelligent to spend the money nourishing the body than to spend the money on such physical exercises.
There are only three forms of physical exercises that give equal strength to the joints and blood vessels in our bodies: yogabhyasa, karadi sadhana (fencing or fighting with weapons) and archery. I don’t know why people have given up the skill of archery in the present day".

And one more Yoga Makranda quote

"For such achievements in yoga, we do not need to send our country’s money elsewhere to procure any items. Whatever money we get, there is plenty of place in our country to store it. The foreigners have stolen all the skills and knowledge and treasures of mother India, either right in front of us or in a hidden way. They pretend that they have discovered all this by themselves, bundle it together, and then bring it back here as though doing us a favour and in exchange take all the money and things we have saved up for our family’s welfare. After some time passes, they will try and do the same thing with yogavidya. We can clearly state that the blame for this is that while we have read the books required for the knowledge of yoga to shine, we have not understood or studied the concepts or brought them into our experience. If we still sleep and keep our eyes closed, then the foreigners will become our gurus in yogavidya.
We have already given the gold vessels we had to them and bought vessels from them made from bad-smelling skin and have started using these. This is a very sad state. Our descendents do not need these sorts of bad habits.
The physical exercise that is yoga, this asana kriya that is with us is more than enough for us. The hut that we live in is enough. We don’t need excessive amounts of money for that. What yoga mata wishes for us is that we eat only the sattvic food that Bharatmata can give us. The ability that our youngsters have to follow outsiders can also be used to follow the knowledge and skills of our country. I have complete faith in this. In schools, it is very important to have this yoga vidya in the curriculum. I do not need to emphasize this specifically to the great scholars who know the secrets of vidya."


Got to run off to work but page numbers to come for all the above quotes.


UPDATED: Ramaswami's Vinyasa Krama slideshows plus Yoga sutra chant, 10 Vedic peace Chants and lectures on developing an integrated Yoga practice, linking Asana, Pranayama and Meditation..

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Ramaswami has been busy while I've been away in Crete and working on the transcripts of the Q and A from Manju's course. There are the Slide shows made up of the pictures from his book The complete book of Vinyasa Yoga as well as some chants including all four chapters of the Yoga Sutras and 10 vedic peace chants.. Also the excellent two part talk, "Linking Asana, Pranayama and Meditation.

Here are the Vinyasa krama sequence slideshows, will add the others if and when Ramaswami posts them

  



  

Two excellent lectures on Linking Asana, Pranayama and meditation, developing an Integrated Yoga practice.





Ramaswami Chanting all fours chapters of the Yoga Sutras.






  

Manju Jois' Adjustments and Assists for Primary and intermediate series Ashtanga plus Shanti Mantras.

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Notice, that for Manju, the feet are crossed above the head here, not behind the head/neck/shoulders as I'd grown accustomed to doing it after practising 2nd series
Two videos I came across that run through Manju's Adjustments/assists for primary and on the 2nd clip, Intermediate series Ashtanga. The best part of manju's TT course was that we got to run through these (the primary series assists - intermediate is another course) again and again, each day going over yet again the assists from the previous days.

Below the videos are a couple of paragraphs from an earlier post on Adjustments/assists, followed by the thranscriptions to the Shanti ( peace) Mantras you hear in the background ( because Manju is encouraging us to explore the meditative practice of chanting after our pranayama, at the end of our asana practice while still in padmasana - a traditional, integrated Yoga practice), also some info on Annemieke van der Zouwen and yogapassie.nl who you see Manju working with in the videos.

Manju's Adjustments/assists  for Primary series



Manju's adjustments/assists from intermediate series.


from a previous post

"Here's a picture from the Adjustment workshop element of Manju's TT course in Crete last month.

Picture by Paris Georgiou/ Vinyasa Yoga Studio, Limassol Cyprus
I used to struggle with pictures like this, adjustments seemed so forceful, so... up close and personal. Is it  necessary, really? 

Are ANY adjustments/assists necessary?

Krishnamacharya, it seems, didn't adjust...or did he?

I came across this ....

Krishnamachrya adjusting (Screenshot from a photo album in Breath of Gods)

It seems Krishnamacharya did adjust occasionally and perhaps adjusted a lot more in his earlier years, his Mysore period.... interesting thought.

And of course I HAVE had adjustments, all those modification of postures in David Swenson's book are in a sense adjustments or assists, at least for the home Ashtangi, a block, a pile of cushions, a strap, a bolster for supta vajrasana an alternative bind, these are all home adjustments, home assists.

It was something I was finally prepared to explore and try and understand a little better, one of the reasons I chose Manju's TT rather than his Intensive.

And it was an eye opener, a game changer.

I don't know how others adjust/assist but with Manju it stuck me that he was mostly about being supportive, helping somebody keep their balance in standing postures, allowing them to keep the bind they already had in some of the seated asana, reminders, guidance and lengthening into the postures, making room for the breath.

And it was fascinating to watch, Manju has been doing this for a LONG time, he's been adjusting bodies since he was fifteen, teaching with his father, Shri K. pattabhi Jois back in the early days of his father's shala.


Video from Our TT in Crete last month

I saw another series, what would that be seventh series, the adjusters series.

In Aikido there is the move and then the counter to the move and even the counter to the counter of the move, it felt a little like that. For every asana there was, in a sense, a new posture, finding balance, a place of strength, stability, comfort for the Adjuster to adjust the adjustee and both led, guided by the breath, fascinating.
And that's why it's so up close and personal, again like Aikido you step in close to better work with your partner, their energy, the direction of their body, to redirect rather than impose your own energy on them, the least force possible.

Ashtanga Mysore, It's a long class, there can be a lot of bodies.

It's like lifting a box you don't want to bend over and and reach out to lift it, you want to get as close to the box as you can, get your legs around it if possible... like a Sumo wrestler, wrap your arms around it

http://www.presentermedia.com/index.php?target=closeup&maincat=clipart&id=5227

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The Videos above contain tracks from Manju's chanting CD, below are the transcriptions. The CD contains the chants at both slow and regular speed. The chants can also be found at the back of Manju's Ashtanga yoga manual.

Of course if chanting Shanti mantras isn't your thing ( and I certainly never expected to enjoy it as much as I do now) then you might like to include another meditative practice after your pranayama practice and in the final padmasana. Japa mantra meditation is a traditional approach ( a short one line mantra like Om hrim nama shivaya that you repeat over and over, or perhaps the Buddhist Oṃ maṇi padme hūṃ or even the loving kindness May all beings be happy, may all beings be safe, may all beings be well, may all beings be peaceful), another is gazing softly at an icon, or a flower perhaps, a piece of wood or a stone as suggested by the Tibetan mahamudra. Following the breath is another approach of course, Zen or Vipassana other options so too is studying an appropriate text, the Yoga Sutras perhaps...  the idea is that after cleaning the room ( asana/pranayama) you reside in it a while (meditation)










Here's Manju teaching the chanting of shanti mantras in Encinitas last year. Thank you Amanda Manfredi for posting this
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Annemieke van der Zouwen - Personal Biography
Annemieke van der Zouwen
After being introduced to yoga in the Netherlands, Annemieke van der Zouwen traveled to India in 2001 to deepen her personal practice of Ashtanga yoga. Together with a selected group of people, she was trained by Manju Pattabhi Jois, one of the world's leading experts in Ashtanga yoga. Annemieke has studied and apprenticed with Manju extensively since 2005. She has had 500 hours of practice with Manju.
Annemieke invited Manju to the Netherlands to give teacher trainings and workshops. Since 2008, she has been Manju's assistant during his workshops and teacher trainings in the Netherlands. She attended many other teacher trainings all over the world with teachers such as David Swenson, Mark Darby, Robert Boustany, Nancy Gilgoff and Neva Ingalls, and traveled many times to India—Mysore, Assagao, North Goa, Auroville—to learn more about Ashtanga yoga.
Annemieke has been teaching Ashtanga yoga since 2000. In her classes, she combines traditional Ashtanga yoga with her strong knowledge of general sports. She obtained a degree in physical education from The Hague University, which makes her a fully qualified teacher. She has a wealth of experience in training, having worked together with physiotherapists and physicians in rehabilitation programs. She knows and fully understands what responsible coaching means.
In 2008, she founded the Ashtanga Yoga Academy (AYA) so that others could learn teaching skills (Registered Yoga School 200; 500 hours Yoga Alliance). She gives Ashtanga yoga workshops for the NYV, the Dutch Yoga Association. She also organizes Ashtanga yoga retreats in the wonderful province of Zeeland.
Annemieke is an authorized teacher by Manju P. Jois.

Ramaswami's Yoga Sutra Chanting Tutorial on Youtube plus other resources.

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As promised Ramaswami uploaded his Youtube tutorial to chanting the Yoga Sutras ( first chapter only so far)


Here are just the audio (downloadable) versions from Ramaswami's Vinyasa krama CHANT page

***Here is my Yoga Sutra chant all the 4 chapters. Recorded for my book about 8 years back when I was about 65 . Please share it with your yoga friends if you like it.
http://youtu.be/Y87Ktcar6R4 from Ramaswami's Sept 2013 Newsletter


  1. Ganapathi.gif Learning to Chant Yoga Sutras Lesson I (128kbps MP3)
  2. Ganapathi.gif Learning to Chant Yoga Sutras Lesson II (128kbps MP3)
  3. Ganapathi.gif Learning to Chant Yoga Sutras Lesson III (128kbps MP3)
  4. Ganapathi.gif Learning to Chant Yoga Sutras Lesson IV (128kbps MP3)


Other Yoga Sutra resources from Ramaswami

The Basic Tenets of Patanjala Yoga by Srivastsa Ramaswami (Cambridge Yoga publications).
Ramaswami has been a student of Prof. Krishnamacharya for over two decades in the theory and practice of Yoga. Apart from Yogasanas and Pranayama, he has studied yoga texts such as Patanjala Yogasutras, Samkhya Karika, Hathayoga- pradipika. UpanishadsasChandogya,Taithiriya, Svetasvatara,Isavasya,the Gita etc., adhyayana(chanting) of the whole of Taithiriya Aranyaka of Yajur Veda and Upanishads, Mantraprasanam etc., all from the Acharya. He has also had yoga lessonsfrom Sri T. K. V. Desikachar, and has written a seriesof articles on Yoga, and also contributed to a few journals. S. Ramaswami holds a masters degree in Industrial Engineering and Management from Oklahoma State University, and has had teaching experiencein Indian universities. He has been teaching yoga practice and also the texts for over fiveyears.


A Brief Introduction to Yoga Philosophy: Based on the Lectures of Srivatsa Ramaswami [Paperback]
David Hurwitz (Author), Srivatsa Ramaswami (Contributor)

This is a brief guide to the Yoga Sutras of Patañjali. It is brief by way of being practical. After stating the goal of Yoga, it is basically an exposition of the eight limbs of Yoga Patañjali gives in Chapter two and the beginning of Chapter three of his Yoga Sutras.




Patanjali’s Yoga Sutras: Based on the Teaching of Srivatsa Ramaswami by Pam Hoxsey
Book and CD by Pam Hoxsey
Local author and yogi, Pam Hoxsey, learned to chant the Yoga Sutras from Srivatsa Ramaswami, who learned them from his teacher. T. Krishnamacharya. They met one-on-one for two hours each morning in two-week intervals, repeated over three years. They chanted the sutras, and then Ramaswami would discuss their meanings. This book--and the CD--is the result of their meetings together.
This version of the Yoga Sutras is comprehensive. Each sutra is written as a phrase, followed by a word-by-word translation, and then a summary of its meaning. In addition, a “tacit question” is often proposed to suggest what topic is being explained. Sometimes there are additional short “notes” to further aid in understanding.
At the end of the book is Ramaswami’s handwritten Sanskrit, followed by the chant phrases written in English with red and blue markings to indicate where the pitch goes up and down. And then there’s the CD by Pam, who has a beautiful voice, chanting the sutras. So you can both read the Yoga Sutras and learn to chant them as they were originally chanted and passed on through the centuries before Patanjali wrote them down.
You can order the book directly from Pam by calling 847.328.4246.

Can Zen ( Rinzai and/or Soto branches) be of assistance in approaching Dhāraṇā, the 6th limb of Patanjali's Ashtanga, in particular object and objectless concentration practice?

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"The other Sunday at Stillpoint Yoga I practiced Led primary with Manju Jois. On coming to the final padmasana we practiced pranayama and then chanted shanti mantras. Ramaswsami refers to chanting here as Dharana, it's one of the meditative limbs of Ashtanga,  concentration on an object (next, according to Patanjali you would move on to concentration without an object). The object might be an icon, the breath, or here a mantra. Ramaswami would have us practice Japa mantra meditation, repeating a short mantra over and over, Manju happens to have has us chant a number of Shanti (peace mantras). I guess you could replace your own preferred approach to meditation practice here if you not yet comfortable with chanting ( I wasn't for the longest time)" from an earlier post

from my earlier post Ashtanga and Zen 2 - Mirror of Zen /// A Day in the Moment of a Modern Zen Monk
http://olyasamadhi.wordpress.com/2013/09/18/ashtanga-and-zen-to-join-their-swords-video/

Yoga in the west is of course big on Asana...., Pranayama too if you know where to look but detailed help with the 6th limb Dhāraṇā can be hard to find. Aranya's commentary on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras is a good start but perhaps we might also consider looking elsewhere for assistance....for the nuts and bolts of object and objectless concentration/meditation practice as it were.

from an earlier post


"Dhāraṇā (from Sanskrit धारणा dhāraṇā) is translated as "collection or concentration of the mind (joined with the retention of breath)", or "the act of holding, bearing, wearing, supporting, maintaining, retaining, keeping back (in remembrance), a good memory", or "firmness, steadfastness, ... , certainty".[1] This term is related to the verbal root dhri to hold, carry, maintain, resolve.
Dhāraṇā is the sixth stage, step or limb of eight elucidated by Patanjali's Ashtanga Yoga or Raja Yoga. For a detailed account of the Eight Limbs, refer to the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali.
Dhāraṇā may be translated as "holding", "holding steady", "concentration" or "single focus". The prior limb Pratyahara involves withdrawing the senses from external phenomena. Dhāraṇābuilds further upon this by refining it further to ekagrata or ekagra chitta, that is single-pointed concentration and focus, which is in this context cognate with Samatha. Maehle (2006: p. 234) defines Dharana as: "The mind thinks about one object and avoids other thoughts; awareness of the object is still interrupted."
Dhāraṇā is the initial step of deep concentrative meditation, where the object being focused upon is held in the mind without consciousness wavering from it. The difference between Dhāraṇā,Dhyāna, and Samādhi (the three together constituting Samyama) is that in the former, the object of meditation, the meditator, and the act of meditation itself remain separate. That is, the meditator or the meditator's meta-awareness is conscious of meditating (that is, is conscious of the act of meditation) on an object, and of his or her own self, which is concentrating on the object. In the subsequent stage of Dhyāna, as the meditator becomes more advanced, consciousness of the act of meditation disappears, and only the consciousness of being/existing and the object of concentration exist (in the mind). In the final stage of Samādhi, the ego-mind also dissolves, and the meditator becomes one with the object. Generally, the object of concentration is God, or the Self, which is seen as an expression of God".

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It's interesting perhaps to compare Patanjali's treatment of object and objectless meditation practice with that of Zen.

Patanjali and meditation on an object.

1.17 The deep absorption of attention on an object is of four kinds, 1) gross (vitarka), 2) subtle (vichara), 3) bliss accompanied (ananda), and 4) with I-ness (asmita), and is called samprajnata samadhi. 

Patanjali’s Yoga Sutras: Based on the Teaching of Srivatsa Ramaswami by Pam Hoxsey

Here's the Rinzai branch of Zen on meditation on an object ( here a Koen)

Rinzai Zen and meditation on on object (Koen)

How is Zen meditation done? ... zazen, one maintains the body in a position free of tension and movement, and focuses the mind on a single object of attention
http://zen.rinnou.net/zazen/

How to sit
Ryōan-ji, Rinzai Temple, Kyoto used to visit here often when we lived in Kyoto, the small moss garden around the back is best.

 See the comments, turns out Enrique was here in this very temple a couple of weeks back. here's his picture of the moss garden I mentioned.

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Patanjali and meditation without an object

1.18 The other kind of samadhi is asamprajnata samadhi, and has no object in which attention is absorbed, wherein only latent impressions remain; attainment of this state is preceded by the constant practice of allowing all of the gross and subtle fluctuations of mind to recede back into the field from which they arose.

Patanjali’s Yoga Sutras: Based on the Teaching of Srivatsa Ramaswami by Pam Hoxsey
And here's the Soto branch of Zen on objectless meditation.

Soto Zen and meditation without object


"What is the meditation practice of Soto Zen? We call it “shikantaza,” “just sitting,” or “objectless meditation", 


http://www.sfzc.org/ggf/display.asp?catid=3,78,89&pageid=1455


Dogen's Eiheiji temple, Soto branch of Zen

In Patanjali meditation o an object might be con sidered as a preperatory stage for objectless meditation. In Zen it is perhaps the other way around.


"Isshu Miura says that the difference of the Rinzai Zen school from Soto is that "zazen is, first of all, the preliminary practice by means of which mind and body are forged into a single instrument for realization. Only the student who has achieved some competency in zazen practice is, or should be, permitted to undertake the study of a koan. Proficiency in zazen is the basic ground for koan study. During the practice of zazen the koan is handled. To state that it is used as the subject of meditation is to state the fact incorrectly. The koan is taken over by the prepared instrument, and, when a fusion of instrument and device takes place, the state of consciousness is achieved which it is the intent of the koan to illumine and in this instant the koan is resolved." He also writes: "When the koan is resolved it is realized to be a simple and clear statement made from the state of consciousness which it has helped to awaken."
 http://www.dharmanet.org/lczen.htm


On Zen and the two largest schools/branches, Soto and Rinzai.
"Zen schools are more or less divisible into those that emphasize a curriculum of verbal meditation objects-like koans-and those that do not. Emphasizing daily life practice as zazen, Soto Zen centers generally do not work with a set koan curriculum and method, though koans are studied and contemplated. Because of this, Soto Zen has traditionally been criticized by the koan schools (the best-known koan school is the Rinzai school of Japan) as dull, overly precious and quietistic, in contrast to the dynamic and lively engagement of the koan path. But the koan way also has its critics, who see the emphasis on words, meaning and insight as working against real non-conceptual Zen living. Koan training systems also have the disadvantage of fostering competition and obsession with advancement in the system.

To study the Buddha way is to study the self.
To study the self is to forget the self.
To forget oneself is to be actualized by myriad things.
When actualized by myriad things, your body and mind as well as the bodies and minds of others drop away.
Dogen Zenji
In koan Zen, contemplation of a koan begins with zazen practice. The practitioner comes to intense presence with body and breath, and then brings up the koan almost as a physical object, repeating it over and over again with breathing, until words and meaning dissolve and the koan is "seen." This practice is done in the context of an intensive retreat led by a qualified Zen koan teacher. Like all systems, the koan system can degenerate into a self-protective and self-referential enclosure. It's the teacher's job to see that this doesn't happen, but sometimes it is not preventable. There are many different systems of koan study, but most of them emphasize humor, spontaneity and openness. The koan method is, at its best, a unique and marvelous expression of human religious sensibility". http://www.dharmanet.org/lczen.htm

Soto and Rinzai Zen

The two main contemporary schools of Zen, Soto and Rinzai, have their roots in the Chinese Caodong and Linji schools of a thousand years ago. These two branches of Zen were transmitted to Japan around 1200.
The distinctions between the schools goes back to to teachers, Shitou and Mazu. While Shitou's style was gentle and harmonious emphasizing the skillful use of words, Mazu's demeanor was stern and uncompromising, often using shouts and blows. This difference in style was carried through their descendants until the founders of the Rinzai and Soto schools, Linji (J. Rinzai) and Dongshan (J. Tozan).taught ( Ch. Ts'ao, J. So).

Soto

Soto's style of practice can be traced back to Shitou (700-790) whose poem "The Harmony of Difference and Sameness" (Sandoaki) is an important early expression of Zen Buddhism and is chanted in Soto temples to this day. Two masters in Shitou's lineage, Dongshan and his disciple Caoshan,are so closely associated with each other that heir names were used together to form the name of their Zen school, Caodong (which became Soto in Japan).
One of Donshan's poems "The Song of the Jewel Mirror Awareness" is also still chanted in Soto temples. Another set of poems on the Five Positions of Absolute and Relative is important as a set of koans used in the Rinzai school.
It was Eihei Dogen Zenji (1200-1253). who transmitted Caodong Zen to Japan. Dogen Zenji is probably the most revered figure in all Japanese Zen. Yet only recently has he become read and studied in the West, perhaps because that great popularizer of Zen in the West, D. T. Suzuki, followed the Rinzai school and managed to essentially ignore Dogen throughout his voluminous writings.
But it was Dogen who first insisted on intensive meditation, who produced the first Japanese writings explaining Zen practice, and who constructed the first real Zen monastery in Japan, establishing a set of monastic rules still observed. Moreover, the strength of his character has inspired many Zen masters to follow.

Rinzai

RInzai Zen is said to be founded by Linji (J. Rinzai). Linji is known for his dramatic and iconoclastic style which is recorded in The Record of Linji.
Although Eisai is credited with bringing Rinzai to Japan, it was Hakuin Zenji who reformed and gave Rinzai Zen its impetus, formulating Japanese Rinzai koan practice and reviving Rinzai Zen in Japan. Endowed with enormous personal force and spirit, Hakuin was a rarity among Zen Masters and a lion among men. He was an accomplished artist and calligrapher and a voluminous author—he left a written legacy that is arguably the most extensive of the masters of the Chan or Zen, traditions. His caustic tongue and pen were legendary, and his words still breathe fire today. Yet his compassion was equal to his fire, and he was beloved by the common folk of his time and remains a favorite among lay practitioners of Zen. Hakuin single-handedly transformed the moribund Rinzai school into a tradition focused on arduous meditation and koan practice. Essentially all modern practitioners of Rinzai Zen use practices directly derived from the teachings of Hakuin.
Although hybrids schools like the Harada-Yasutani line of Zen are not part of the Rinzai lineage, these lines comprise the greater part of Western Zen; and, some of these teachers were, in fact, Rinzai Dharma heirs. Teachers, like Roshi Robert Aitken were at one time students of Rinzai Teachers.

How different?

Shitou jousted with Mazu, and they often swapped students, Mazu sent his pupils on their way with a wink and the advice that Shitou was "slippery."
Much has been made about the differences between Rinzai and Soto Zen. Writers and teachers often emphasize Rinzai's emphasis on kensho (seeing into one's self nature) and Soto's emphasis on zazen, but this has lead to the misconception taht Soto rejects the concept of enlightenment and Rinzai practitioners don't practice zazen. There also seems to be misinformation regarding koan practice or study. Koans are examples drawn from the awakening of past practitioners and often seem to be illogical or intuitive. But they are not puzzles to be solved or intuited. They are expressions of awakening.
Both Rinzai and Soto Zen Buddhists study koans and practice zazen. The differences are of a more subtle nature. To even say Rinzai "stresses" koans over zazen would be inaccurate. It is accurate to say that Soto Zen continues to consider the practice of zazen to be the sole means of realization. But Soto Zen has never discarded the koan. Soto teachers lecture on koans and their students study koans outside the practice of zazen. Soto Zen practices zazen as awakening itself to the already realized koan. In Rinzai Zen practice, a koan is examined while sitting in order to deepen insight.
Isshu Miura says that the difference of the Rinzai Zen school from Soto is that "zazen is, first of all, the preliminary practice by means of which mind and body are forged into a single instrument for realization. Only the student who has achieved some competency in zazen practice is, or should be, permitted to undertake the study of a koan. Proficiency in zazen is the basic ground for koan study. During the practice of zazen the koan is handled. To state that it is used as the subject of meditation is to state the fact incorrectly. The koan is taken over by the prepared instrument, and, when a fusion of instrument and device takes place, the state of consciousness is achieved which it is the intent of the koan to illumine and in this instant the koan is resolved." He also writes: "When the koan is resolved it is realized to be a simple and clear statement made from the state of consciousness which it has helped to awaken."

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Below, extracts from Zen Training Sekida Katsuki ( my use of bold) which I'm currently reading quite closely, always seem to keep coming back to Zen ( this will be my fourth 'Zen phase'), no doubt because it's useful. Does anywhere else focus so closely on actual practice ( ashtanga comes to mind).

Available on Amazon or here
http://www.scribd.com/doc/96016634/Zen-Training-Sekida
"In studying Zen we start with practice. Now, it is true that Zen is concerned with the problem of the nature of mind, so it necessarily includes an element of philosophical speculation. However, while the philosopher relies mainly on speculation and reasoning, in Zen we are never separated from our personal practice, which we carry out with our body and mind. Edmund Husserl, the founder of phenomenology, may seem to come close to Zen in his ideas when he advocates a technique called "phenomenological reduction." He says that he ignores "the ego as a person arranged on objective time," and arrives at the "pure phenomenon." However, like other philosophers, he does not seem to go beyond a purely mental exercise. In Zen training we also seek to extinguish the self-centered, individual ego, but we do not try to do this merely by thinking about it. It is with our own body and mind that we actually experience what we call "pure existence."

"Our aim in practicing zazen is to enter the state of samadhi, in which, as we have said, the normal activity of our consciousness is stopped. This is not something that comes easily to us. The beginner in Zen will usually be told to start by practicing counting his breaths-that is, to count each exhalation up to ten, and then start again (see chapter 5). The reader (assuming he is inexperienced in Zen) should try this for himself. Quite probably you will look on this task with some contempt, thinking that you can do it without any difficulty, but when you start you will soon find that wandering thoughts come into your head, perhaps when you have reached about "five" or "six," and the thread of counting is broken. The next moment you come to yourself and cannot recollect where you left off. You have to start again, saying "one" and so on. How can we prevent our thoughts from wandering? How can we learn to focus our attention on one thing? The answer is that we cannot do it with our brain alone; the brain cannot control its thoughts by itself. The power to control the activity of our mind comes from the body, and it depends critically (as we shall show in later chapters, in detail) on posture and breathing".

"We have already referred to the state of off-sensation, in which we lose the sense of the whereabouts of our body. Subsequent1y, by stilling the activity of our mind, a state is reached in which time, space, and causation, which constitute the framework of consciousness, drop away. We call this condition "body and mind fallen off." In ordinary mental activity the cerebral cortex takes the major role, but in this state, apparently, it is hardly active at all. "Body and mind fallen off" may seem to be nothing but a condition of mere being, but this mere being is accompanied by a remarkable mental power, which we may characterize as a condition of extreme wakefulness".

"When the Zen student has once experienced pure existence, he undergoes a complete about-face in his view of the world. But unfortunately, as long as he is a human being, he cannot escape from the inevitability of living as an individual. He cannot leave the world of differentiation. And he is thus placed in a new dilemma, which he did not encounter before. Inevitably, this entails a certain internal conflict, which may cause much distress. To deal with this, further training of the mind has to be undertaken in order to learn how, while living in the world of differentiation, we can avoid discrimination. We have to learn how to exercise the mind of nonattachment while working in attachment. This is called training after the attainment of realization, or cultivation of Holy Buddhahood, which constitutes an essential part of Zen (see chapter 17). There is a Zen saying, "Equality without differentiation is bad equality; differentiation without equality is bad differentiation." This is a very commonplace saying, but the level of understanding to which it refers is not common, since it can be attained only in a mature state of Zen practice".


"Zen training continues endlessly..."


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The ups and down of Ashtanga's kapotasana

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So I've had this Kapotasana progression post up for a few years, running from December 08 - Feb 2012, starts with first attempts, through spider walking to my toes, up my feet, dropping back to my heels and eventually ankles and long stays of 25 breaths.

http://grimmly2007.blogspot.co.uk/2009/01/kapotasana-progress-so-far.html

Be nice if that was the end of the story, a fairy tale ending, unfortunately.....

those kapo's can come and go and come again....and go again.

The first post above was to show the progress from beginnings to some facility, the struggle as it were.... the idea being that you could find your own kapo in the videos and then look around that date for posts on what worked in allowing me to progress to the kapo in the next video, a cute conceit I thought.

An update seemed in order. A what happened next post because somewhere along the way I allowed my kapo to fall by the wayside.

Jump to the last video below to see.

The first two video's are where the previous post left off, with ankles.

Jan 2012


March 2012


I forget what happened after that, I should look back and check. I might have switched back to Vinyasa Krama for a while ( but that doesn't make sense as Ramaswami's Bow sequence makes for great kapo). Anyway I let my kapo slip such that I was barely landing on my toes. I thought perhaps that was that, a glory kapo gone never to return. Turns out kapo's do come back, a couple of weeks and I was back to  grabbing my heels. nice to know which is why I posted on it.

Feb 2013


I even explored it with David Robson's drums, taking it nice and slow.

Feb 2013


That was back in February, it was around that time I began to explore in practice Krishnamacharya's Asana descriptions in Yoga Makaranda. That was followed by, what, revisiting Primary but taking it really slow and with long stays. Intermediate series was out of the picture.

And then I had that three months of disruptive practice with the Kidney stones and what have you, very  basic practice although I managed to get a couple of good weeks in before Manju's TT in Crete. The TT was interesting actually, third day I figured I might as well have a go at my 2nd in the Mysore Morning practice of the course, it was hot and sweaty in Kristina's shala, felt I could do manage almost anything there. Turned out there was still a fairly acceptable 2nd including kapo. I really don't remember much about the actual Kapo's  though, I think I landed back near my feet and managed to grab my toes, mostly I remember those first lagu vajrasana assists.

Coming back from Crete there was Manju's led Primary at Stillpoint yoga to look forward to, so again Intermediate on hold, focus on primary.

No more excuses, this week I started to revisit 2nd and it's a bit of a mess, neglected.... there's a lot of fuzz. I could list the catalogue of shame but I wont bother, sure you can guess/imagine.

Shame, who am I kidding, it's just asana, and yet I do feel I've let my discipline, as reflected in the practice ( and my waistline), slip a little.

So here then is where I'm at now, my kapo after what six months away from it, this is a marker of sorts to see if it will come back and how long it takes. I think the first time I went away and came back ( see above) I'd retained the flexibility in the back, looking at the screen shot below that seems to have gone completely ( and yet i still drop back and come up....just) or is it more that I've lost strength in my quads and can't keep my legs vertical, I remember that being key...? No doubt a little of both.

I figure this time I should be more aware of what's going on as it does come back (Assuming it does). I keep getting asked about kapo, how I worked at it, what made the difference, hopefully this time around I'll have a clearer understanding.

Sept 2013


And because my practice fee's so disrupted, so out of sorts, the Mysore room idea is on hold for now, some 121 Vinyasa Krama classes still but more than anything I want to re establish my own Ashtanga practice ( I practice my Vinyasa krama seperately), ground it, feel settled in it before I consider the challenges of holding a space for others.

Oh, my approach?

Basically still an Ashtanga framework , Standing, Manju's pre 2nd series pashimottanasana and purvotanasana ( yes he includes them in his 2nd series it seems) then into pasanaa and krounchasana before sliding into Ramaswami's Bow sequence ( Basically the postures leading up to kapo in 2nd but with more variations, more prep).

from my Vinyasa Krama  practice book
Then a little of the Vinyasa Krama meditative sequence built around vajrasana. Back on to 2nd series but leaving the early leg behind head postures to one side for now and slipping into Primary's janu sirsana's and kurmasana's instead. Pick 2nd up again at yoga nidrasana ( Karandavasana? Don't ask, not pretty) and carry on to the end and on into finishing, pranayama and meditation/chanting.

Sharath's Uttkatasana and Virabhadrasana video also Sharath's Pranayama tutorial.

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Sharath posted a 'tutorial' on Uttkatasana and Virabhadrasana this morning, I suspect he has a bee in his bonnet (bee reference for M.) about the lifts at the end, he does seem to come back again and again to these neglected lifts.


Hands up who neglects them

Sorry Sharath 

But they are there in Yoga Mala....

"Then doing recheka and puraka, press the hands to the floor by the sides of the feet, put the whole weight of the body on the two hands, and lift the body off the floor" p63



And here it is Virabhadrasana

"Next, place place the hands on the floor on either side of the right foot and, without allowing the legs to touch the floor, lift both the left leg and bent right leg completely off the floor with only the strength of the hands; this is the 11th vinyasa". p67

"This is the 11th vinyasa", we might try to pass the Uttkatasana lift off as' style' but here the lift gets a vinyasa count of it's very own, no excuses (hangs head).


Some screenshots of Sharath's and his grandfather's  Virabhadrasana from Yoga Mala, Pattabhi Jois has a much wider stance.



But, you might exclaim,  the picture of Pattabhi Jois is from his Surynamaskara pictures, true but the text does say that it's the same


"Next stand as in the 7th vinyasa of the second suryanamaskara..."

Same goes for Uttkatasana


"Jump into the 2nd vinyasa of the first Surya Namaskars..."

Manju  said something interesting about Virabhadrasana, this was from a workshop a few days after the one I attended and passed on to me by J. (Thank you J.).

"He (Manju) also told me in Virabhadrasana that the back leg should feel so grounded that you can lift the front leg up in a kick—and the true warrior of old would take this stance for fighting to free the front leg for that kick".

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We should be careful of course reading too much into pictures, I've taken screenshots from my videos that aren't perhaps the best presentation of my asana just close enough ("they'll do"). Interestingly though, Krishnamacharya, in Yoga Makaranda makes a point of point of saying in several places "study the picture carefully", he seems to have been happy with his pictures, how I would have loved to be a fly on the wall at that photoshoot.


I have this fantasy of Manju adjusting his father's Virabhadrasana and Utkatasana



....and nightmares about what Iyengar might have to say about them ( and my own for that matter).

While on the topic of Sharath video's here's Sharath's Pranayama tutorial from earlier in the month.There seemed to be a big hush around this video, usually everyone goes nuts about Sharath clips, this one though received barely a mention, confusion? 



And two last thoughts about about 'the little differences'....



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YS 1-33 Ashtanga Yoga and Loving Kindness II, the four Immeasurable as Meditation technique in yoga Sutras

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“May all sentient beings enjoy happiness and the root of happiness.
“May they be free from suffering and the root of suffering.
“May they not be separated from the great happiness devoid of suffering.
“May they dwell in the great equanimity free from passion, aggression, and prejudice.”
-Traditional Chant

In an earlier post I mentioned how I've been bringing a loving kindness mantra into my Ashtanga asana practice...

"Pre practice I sat for some Loving Kindness meditation and for some reason or other decided to bring that into may asana practice, my Primary series. I've explored Mahasati in practice recently and mantra often, this was an extension of that.

So basically on the inhalation I mentally recited


"May I be filled with loving kindness"
on the exhalation

"May I be safe and well"

on the next inhalation

"May I be peaceful and at ease"
and on the exhalation
"May I be happy"


...and then continued that throughout the whole practice, every breath, every inhalation, every exhalation for going on two hours".

It's a powerful practice, 90 minutes plus of mentaly chanting this mantra, throughout the whole of the practice.

Another option would be to chant it on just the Surynamaskara's,  perhaps in your long 25 breath shoulder stands and headstands, and in padmasana.

I'd originally planned to change the mantra each day of my practice week, so on the first day it would be may I be happy, the next day, may my teacher be happy, the next my most loved one M., next up the sangha, the Ashtang/Yoga blogging and wider yoga community, then all those I work with anyone I know, then all those I don't know and finally, all sentient beings which includes of course, any 'enemie's and those who you might consider evil

That's what I'd planned but I was struck that first day with how powerful the loving kindness mantra was when projected at myself and in my practice, at how important it is to begin loving kindness with ourselves, actually it's suggested you begin with your mother, a new born child or perhaps even a kitten, I've tended to begin with Nietzsche...

Nietzsche, much missed
However you're most able to first conjure up that feeling of unselfish love, warmth, kindness which you then bring as a ground into all the other objects of the meditation.

As you bind in Marichiyasana D, the mantra reminds youto be safe

....there are lots of Marichi D's in our day-to-day life, 

in Supt Kurmasana, in Kapo be peaceful and at ease, 

again how often in our day do we need to be reminded of that. 

...May I be happy

however my asana is, however my practice is, may I be happy with it as it is and with my actions of the day, don't judge myself so much, be happy with where I am, hopefully do a little better in my next action, the next moment, the next day. 

And most of all may I be filled with loving kindness

in every breath of my practice, every breath throughout my day.

Because it shows up when you recite this mantra through your practice how you perhaps aren't filled with loving kindness, that you aren't perhaps being concerned enough that you're safe and well, or that you're peaceful and at ease or that you are happy however you may wish to parse it. 

So this week focusing on the I, rather than the you or he or she or they it's been bringing that home quite powerfully, the mantra has come alive, it resonates,  such that when I do bring in the he, she they it will perhaps be even more profound.

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Loving Kindness is one of the four Immeasurable in Buddhism and it's there in the Yoga Sutras, 1:33. This sutra is the first of seven contemplation techniques or approaches to meditation. 

The final meditation option of the seven is the 'fast track' option of contemplating Ishvara ( the Lord, God). The most seemingly straightforward perhaps (but challenging) of the seven, and no doubt the most familiar,  is following the breath. But This concentration on the four immeasurable, including loving kindness is the first. Not the first as in we begin with it or that there is an order or that we have to practice all of them, they are surely options, anyone should be able to find an approach to meditation that works for them ( and Patanajali goes into more depth and detail later), but I find it interesting that Patanjali placed it here, right at the beginning. 

Update: On thinking about it perhaps he was placing this Buddhist approach to meditation here (perhaps prevalent at the time) and then showing there were other approaches.

Either way the goal is to develop one pointedness, Ekaggatā, focussing on one principle and the four imeasurables perhaps strike me not only as good as anything else but perhaps having the added bonus, the immediate benefit of having an effect on everyone you come into contact with from the very beginning...and it's a long journey. 

Sure we can focus on the breath in our work on one pointedness but I struggle with people, the abstract is one thing but actual people... how do you love everyone, feel kindness to everyone.... Well it takes, work, technique, practice....


Brahmavihāras, the four immeasurables in the Yoga Sutras

Yoga Sutras 1-33

maitrî-karuñâ-muditopekæâñâä sukha-duïkha-puñyâpuñya-viæayâñâä bhâvanâtaå citta-prasâdanam

maitrî = friendliness
karuñâ = compassion
mudita = delight
upekæâñâä = equanimity
sukha = happiness
duïkha = distress, pain, suffering puñya = good, virtuous

apuñya = bad, evil
viæayâñâä = object (of experience)
bhâvanâtaï = radiating, projecting
citta = consciousness
prasâdanam = calming, tranquilizing, clarification

Consciousness settles as one radiates friendliness, compassion, delight, and equanimity toward all things, whether pleasant or painful, good or bad.
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Consciousness settles....

Ronald Steiner has the full Yoga Sutras along with his commentary on his excellent Ashtangainfo.com

here's the link to his treatment of 1:33, I've quoted a couple of sections from his treatment of 1:33 below.

MAITRI KARUNA MUDITO PEKSHANAM SUKHA DUHKHA PUNYA APUNYA VISHAYANAM BHAVANATAH CHITTA PRASADANAM ||33||

मैत्री करुणा मुदितोपेक्षाणांसुखदुःख पुण्यापुण्यविषयाणां भावनातः चित्तप्रसादनम् ॥३३॥
maitrī karuṇā mudito-pekṣāṇāṁ-sukha-duḥkha puṇya-apuṇya-viṣayāṇāṁ bhāvanātaḥ citta-prasādanam ||33||
All that is mutable in human beings (chitta) is harmonized through the cultivation of love (maitri), helpfulness (karuna), conviviality (mudita) and imperturbability (upeksha) in situations that are happy, painful, successful or unfortunate. ||33||

These four basic traits nurture each other, which means that developing one helps to develop all the others.
  • I always try to accept other people in a loving fashion (maitrī), and particularly when time is at a premium.
  • If someone needs my help, I try to be there for them (karuṇā). This is part of my job as a yoga teacher and physician. In some cases, this help takes a very concrete form, e.g. when I prescribe a drug or therapy. However, when it comes to personal problems I rarely provide specific answers, but instead try to help the student find their own solution.
  • mudita means conviviality, which is an important trait for me as a yoga teacher and physician. When I have to give a patient bad news, I nonetheless try to be as upbeat as possible – because after all, how can he be expected to believe in his own recovery if I rob him of all hope from a medical standpoint?
  • Of the four key traits, I have the most difficulty cultivating imperturbability (upekṣa) – for example being accepting when a close friend lights up a cigarette. I need to exhibit this same kind of acceptance in cases where a patient refuses to undergo therapy that I feel he needs. This ability to accept a person as they are is a sign of a good relationship.
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For me this seems to be treating 1:33 kind of like yama/niyama, a general approach to daily life and while I agree completely, cultivate loving kindness, the four immeasurable in all your interactions, I want to go further and remind myself that Patanjali has placed this sutra here among the approaches to contemplation, the meditation techniques and he places it first.

Here's Aranya but notice Vyasa's commentary, "...the mind becomes pure. A purified mind becomes one-pointed, eventually attains serenity"

and the last line of Aranya's commentary

"These fours practices are called Brahmavihāras by the buddhists and these, they say, lead to the brahmaloka" (Theravāda Buddhists hold that rebirth in the brahma-loka is the reward enjoyed by an individual who has accompanied great virtue with meditation).


Here's the sutra and Vyasa's commentary along with that of Aranya.



Ramaswami reminds us that we take the principle that if something is not expanded on, explained in detail in Patanjali's text, then it's taken as a given and we refer outside the text. So to understand Purusha for example we turn to Samkhya on which Patanjali's system, his presentation of yoga, is grounded.

To understand and explore the four immeasurable in more depth then we might turn to Buddhism. There is an area of study that explores how much Patanajali was influenced by Buddhism and/or whether the Yoga Sutras were a response to the Buddhism prevalent in India at the time of writing, It's there in the text and never more so than here in 1-33

Krishnamacharya too it seems was interested in Buddhism in his early life although for how long a period and to what extent is unknown it seems. 

Of course you don't have to become a Buddhist to take on board Buddhist Meditation techniques or Buddhist Ethics and Buddhism doesn't hold the patent on Loving kindness, Compassion, equanimity, Joy but they do write about it a lot.

So where can we look for more info on Loving Kindness mediation.... Insight meditation of course, Vipassana sites often treat metta, loving Kindness, as a meditation technique, you'll find retreats, workshops, special sessions on loving Kindnesss...

Check out podcasts from audiodharma, I have a soft spot for those by Gil Frondsal (must have listened to hundreds of dharma talks by him from here and Zencast over the years, always good)

See too this in depth article from the Berzin archives for sources

Introduction

The four immeasurable attitudes (tshad-med bzhi, Skt.apramana, Pali: appamanna) are:
  • immeasurable love (byams-pa, Skt: maitri, Pali: metta),
  • immeasurable compassion (snying-rje, Skt: karuna, Pali:karuna),
  • immeasurable joy (dga'-ba, Skt: mudita, Pali: mudita),
  • immeasurable equanimity (btang-snyoms, Skt: upeksha, Pali:upekkha).
They are also called "the four Brahma abodes" (tshangs-gnas bzhi, Skt. brahmavihara, Pali: brahmavihara) and are found in the various Hinayana and Mahayana traditions of Buddhism, as well as in Bon. Different schools and texts interpret them slightly differently, and certain practices in some traditions change their order. The Four Immeasurable Attitudes in Hinayana, Mahayana, and Bon
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The Tibetan Buddhists however really go to town on Loving Kindness and the four immeasurable, the be all and end all of Tibetan Buddhism perhaps, OK maybe I exaggerate ( discuss), actually I think I probably don't.

Pretty much anything by  the Dali lama is probably based on Loving Kindness and the four immeasurable to some extent, try this for a start

ILLUMINATING THE PATH TO ENLIGHTENMENT

Or  perhaps this Meditation handbook by the 'New Kadampa' school which is based on  Lamrim, and can be read in a day, practiced for a lifetime...


Lamrim - The Stages of the Path

The stages of the path to enlightenment, or Lamrim in Tibetan, is the backbone of Kadampa Buddhism.

Lamrim is a special set of instructions that includes all the essential teachings of Buddha Shakyamuni arranged in such a way that all his Hinayana and Mahayana teachings can be put into practice in a single meditation session.

It was compiled by the great Indian Buddhist Master Atisha, who was invited to Tibet by King Jangchub Ö in AD 1042, and who spent the rest of his life there spreading pure Dharma.

First we must understand the value of Lamrim. Then by joyfully and patiently doing the meditations we shall gradually experience the fruits of Lamrim practice.

Eventually we shall attain freedom from all suffering and the unchanging peace and happiness of enlightenment.

There are 21 Lamrim meditations, which are usually practiced in a three-week cycle as a daily meditation practice:

Our precious human life
Death and impermanence
The danger of lower rebirth
Refuge practice
Actions and their effects
Developing renunciation for samsara
Developing equanimity
Recognizing that all living beings are our mothers
Remembering the kindness of living beings
Equalizing self and others
The disadvantages of self-cherishing
The advantages of cherishing others
Exchanging self with others
Great compassion
Taking
Wishing love
Giving
Bodhichitta
Tranquil abiding
Superior seeing
Relying upon a Spiritual Guide

These meditations, along with instructions on how to practice them and essential background material, can be found in The New Meditation Handbook.
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I liked the New Meditation Handbook a lot, the 21 contemplations are short enough that I can bring them into my morning practice, turn one of the meditations into a mantra, similar to the loving kindness mantra and repeat it throughout my practice before sitting with it at the end of my practice.

UPDATED: Why did Krishnamacharya introduce kumbhaka (breath retention) into the practice of asana in Ashtanga?

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In this post I explore why Krishnamacharya included Kumbhaka (breath retention) in his descriptions of asana in his 1934 manual Yoga Makaranda. I question too why it has not been passed along in current the Ashtanga of Pattabhi Jois. I argue that Krishnamacharya was bringing in meditation techniques into the asana practice to still the mind during practice, to avoid the Monkey mind that we so often experience, and that the meditation techniques he brought into his presentation of asana are consistent with Patanjali's Yoga Sutras. I present other options suggested by Patanjali including the attitude I employ in my own practice based on loving kindness and the four immeasurables.

“May all sentient beings enjoy happiness and the root of happiness.
“May they be free from suffering and the root of suffering.
“May they not be separated from the great happiness devoid of suffering.
“May they dwell in the great equanimity free from passion, aggression, and prejudice.”
-Traditional Chant based on the four immeasurable.


For a long time I've been wondering why Krishnamacharya included Kumbhaka in his presentation of asana in Yoga Makaranda (1934). I explored the practice myself, liked it, found it quite powerful actually and still include kumbhaka in my own practice. It's an approach that Krishnamacharya seems to have continued to explore throughout his life. Ramaswami, who studied with Krishnamacharya for 33 years through the 1950s-70s included a kumbhaka option in many of the asana he taught to us on his teacher training in 2010.

Kumbhaka in asana wasn't taken up by Pattabhi Jois in his presentation of Krishnamacharya's Ashtanga in Yoga Mala. When I asked Manju Jois recently about this he went so far as to suggest the practice was wrong, that Krishnamacharya was mistaken in including kumbhaka in asana.


We could come up with several reasons perhaps why one might seek to explore kumbhaka in asana but what was Krishnamacharya's reasoning, what was he after? Was it something he introduced himself or did it come from his teacher and perhaps his teacher's teacher, is it part of a lost teaching, a break in the lineage? Krishnamacharya argued that you knew a yoga practice was wrong if it it didn't correspond with the Yoga Sutras.

So is there any ground for including kumbhaka in as asana practice based on Patanjali?

I think there is.

"While practicing yoga with reverence, one can offer their essence to God during exhalation and during inhalation, imagine/suppose that God is entering your heart.  During kumbhaka, we can practice dharana and dhyana.  Such practices will improve mental concentration and strengthen silence/stillness.  Eliminates agitation and restlessness".  Krishnamacharya: Yogasanagalu (1941)

"While practicing yoga....



Here Krishnamacharya appears to be referring to yoga asana and that would tie in with his unique approach to asana as found in his book Yoga Makaranda (1934) written a couple of years earlier than Yogasanagalu (1941). In Yoga Makaranda he describes kumbhaka while in asana and not just padmasana but almost all asana that he describes.

"When practising asana, the breath that is inhaled into the body and the breath that is exhaled out must be kept equal. Moreover, practise the asana with their vinyasas by breathing only through the nose". p27

"Brahmana kriya means to take in the outside air through the nose, pull it inside, and hold it in firmly. This is called puraka kumbhaka.
Langhana kriya means to exhale the air that is inside the body out through he nose and to hold the breath firmly without allowing any air from outside into the body. This is called recaka kumbhaka".
p27-28

"In each section for each particular asana, we have included a description and an enumeration of its vinyasas. The vinyasas in which the head is raised are to be done with puraka kumbhaka and the ones in which the head is lowered must be done with recaka kumbhaka. Uthpluthi (raising the body from the floor with only the support of both hands on the floor is called uthpluthi) should be done on recaka kumbhaka for a fat person and on puraka kumbhaka for a thin person...." p28

2 Parsvottanasana
"...Standing in tadasana krama, draw in clean air through the nose and practise kumbhaka...." p59

11 Janusirsasana
"...This form follows the hatha yoga principles. Another form follows the raja yoga method. The practitioner should learn the difference. First, take either leg and extend it straight out in front. Keep the heel pressed firmly on the floor with the toes pointing upward. That is, the leg should not lean to either side. The base (back) of the knee should be pressed against the ground. Fold the other leg and place the heel against the genitals, with the area above the knee (the thigh) placed straight against the hip. That is, arrange the straight leg which has been extended in front and the folded leg so that together they form an “L”. Up to this point, there is no difference between the practice of the hatha yogi and the raja yogi.
For the hatha yoga practitioner, the heel of the bent leg should be pressed firmly between the rectum and the scrotum. Tightly clasp the extended foot with both hands, raise the head and do puraka kumbhaka. Remain in this position for some time and then, doing recaka, lower the head and place the face onto the knee of the outstretched leg. While doing this, do not pull the breath in. It may be exhaled. After this, raise the head and do puraka. Repeat this on the other side following the rules mentioned above.
The raja yogi should place the back of the sole of the folded leg between the scrotum and the genitals. Now practise following the other rules described above for the hatha yogis. There are 22 vinyasas for janusirsasana. Please note carefully that all parts of the outstretched leg and the folded leg should touch the floor. While holding the feet with the hands, pull and clasp the feet tightly. Keep the head or face or nose on top of the kneecap and remain in this sthiti from 5 minutes up to half an hour. If it is not possible to stay in recaka for that long, raise the head in between, do puraka kumbhaka and then, doing recaka, place the head back down on the knee. While keeping the head lowered onto the knee, puraka kumbhaka should not be done..." p79-80

SEE APPENDIX AT BOTTOM OF POST FOR MORE EXAMPLES

Why did Krishnamacharya introduced kumbhaka into asana?

Perhaps it has something to do with this.....

Translations of Yoga sutras below from Chip Hartranft
http://www.arlingtoncenter.org/Sanskrit-English.pdf (with some additional notes from Ramaswami).

1:30 vyâdhi-styâna-sanåaya-pramâdâlasyâvirati-bhrânti-daråanâlabdha-bhûmikatvânavasthitatvâni citta-vikæepâs te ‘ntarâyâï
Sickness, apathy, doubt, carelessness, laziness, hedonism, delusion, lack of progress, and inconstancy are all distractions which, by stirring up consciousness, act as barriers to stillness.

Ramaswami writes, "These are the nine impediments (to practice) removed by meditating on ishvara (The Lord, God)".

1:31 duïkha-daurmanasyâògam-ejayatva-åvâsa-praåvâsâ vikæepa-sahabhuvaï
When they do, one may experience distress, depression, or the inability to maintain steadiness of posture or breathing.

1:32 tat-pratiæedhârtham eka-tattvâbhyâsaï
One can subdue these distractions by working with any one of the following principles of practice.

"One principle' could refer to Ishvara". Ramaswami

Patanjali then goes on to outline seven attitudes, meditation/contemplation/concentration techniques to overcome these barriers to stillness.

The first is the traditional Buddhist meditation approach of contemplating the four imesurables that I mentioned in my previous post and which I have brought into my own practice.

1:33 maitrî-karuñâ-muditopekæâñâä sukha-duïkha-puñyâpuñya-viæayâñâä bhâvanâtaå citta-prasâdanam
"Consciousness settles as one radiates friendliness, compassion, delight, and equanimity toward all things, whether pleasant or painful, good or bad"

Krishnamacharya however seems to be introducing into his asana descriptions the second meditation technique Patanjali outlines when he writes

"While practicing yoga with reverence, one can offer their essence to God during exhalation and during inhalation, imagine/suppose that God is entering your heart.  During kumbhaka, we can practice dharana and dhyana.  Such practices will improve mental concentration and strengthen silence/stillness.  Eliminates agitation and restlessness".  Krishnamacharya: Yogasanagalu

1:34 pracchardana-vidhârañâbhyâm vâ prâñasya
Or by pausing after breath flows in or out.

and also the seventh, for him Ishvara, the Lord, God

1:39 yathâbhimata-dhyânâd vâ
Or through meditative absorption in any desired object.

"or by taking your own favourite religious practice ( a particular god: an image; or a feeling) and meditating on that". Ramaswami


In our own asana practice we all struggle with 'monkey mind' citta-vëtti, the fluctuations of the mind. the idea has always seemed to be that by praqctcing asana and  pranayama that we will be able to still the mind somehow and then be able to practice meditation with a more stable mind.

What Krishnamachaya seems to be doing is bringing mind stilling techniques found in Patanjali into the asana itself, stilling the mind while in the asana. We do this already by seeking to follow the breath, focusing on drishti, on bandhas but it doesn't always help does it, our minds are still too often all over the place. And perhaps we go for ever more complicated asana in an attempt stay concentrated when perhaps with the most appropriate attitude/meditation technique we can still the mind in the most straight forward of asana.

Here are the seven contemplation/meditation techniques patanjali recommends in Chapter 1 of his yoga Sutras that we might consider bringing into our asana practice.

I.33 maitrî-karuñâ-muditopekæâñâä sukha-duïkha-puñyâpuñya-viæayâñâä bhâvanâtaå citta-prasâdanam
Consciousness settles as one radiates friendliness, compassion, delight, and equanimity toward all things, whether pleasant or painful, good or bad.

I.34 pracchardana-vidhârañâbhyâm vâ prâñasya
Or by pausing after breath flows in or out.

I.35 viæayavatî vâ pravëttir utpannâ manasaï sthiti-nibandhanî
Or by steadily observing as new sensations materialise.

I.36 viæokâ vâ jyotiæmatî
Or when experiencing thoughts that are luminous and free of sorrow.

I.37 vîtarâgaviæayam vâ cittam
Or by focusing on things that do not inspire attachment.

I.38 svapna-nidrâ-jõânâlambanam vâ
Or by reflecting on insights culled from sleep and dreaming.

I.39  yathâbhimata-dhyânâd vâ
Or through meditative absorption in any desired object




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APPENDIX: Kumbhaka in Krishnamacharya's descriptions of asana

Examples of usage of Kumbhaka (Breath retention) in asana in Krishnamacharya's Yoga Makaranda

"When practising asana, the breath that is inhaled into the body and the breath that is exhaled out must be kept equal. Moreover, practise the asana with their vinyasas by breathing only through the nose". p27

"Brahmana kriya means to take in the outside air through the nose, pull it inside, and hold it in firmly. This is called puraka kumbhaka.
Langhana kriya means to exhale the air that is inside the body out through he nose and to hold the breath firmly without allowing any air from outside into the body. This is called recaka kumbhaka".
p27-28

"In each section for each particular asana, we have included a description and an enumeration of its vinyasas. The vinyasas in which the head is raised are to be done with puraka kumbhaka and the ones in which the head is lowered must be done with recaka kumbhaka. Uthpluthi (raising the body from the floor with only the support of both hands on the floor is called uthpluthi) should be done on recaka kumbhaka for a fat person and on puraka kumbhaka for a thin person...." p28

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1 Uttanasana

"Following the rules for tadasana (yogasana samasthiti krama) (Figure 4.1, 4.2), stand erect. Afterwards, while exhaling the breath out slowly, bend the upper part of the body (that is, the part above the hip) little by little and place the palms down by the legs. The knees must not be even slightly bent. Raise the head upwards and fix the gaze on the tip of the nose. While doing this, draw in clean air through the nostril, hold the breath firmly and maintain this position. This is called sahitha kumbhaka...." p51

2 Parsvottanasana
"...Standing in tadasana krama, draw in clean air through the nose and practise kumbhaka...." p59

3 Prasarita Padottanasana
"...Stand in tadasana krama. Jump the legs apart, placing the feet 3 mozhams apart on the ground. Practise jumping and placing the feet at the correct distance all in one jump. While jumping, either puraka kumbhaka or recaka kumbhaka can be done...." p61

4 Ardhabaddha Padmottanasana
"From tadasana, do puraka kumbhaka. After this, choose either leg and place its foot on top of the opposite thigh. Slowly, little by little, move the foot up until the back of the heel is pressed against the lower abdomen. Whichever leg is raised, move the same hand behind the back and clasp the big toe of that foot (from behind the back). Keep the other hand in tadasana sthiti and do puraka kumbhaka. After this, slowly exhale through the nose and bend the upper part of the body forward down to the floor. Place the palm down by the foot and keep it firmly pressed against the floor. Release the breath out completely, and without inhaling, practise kumbhaka and lower the head, placing it on top of the kneecap of the extended leg...."p61

6 Urdhvamukhasvanasana
"This has 4 vinyasas. Vinyasas 1, 2, and 3 are exactly as for uttanasana. The 4th vinyasa is to be done following the same method as for caturanga dandasana. But in caturanga dandasana, there are 4 angulas of space between the body and the floor everywhere. In this asana, the palms and toes are as in caturanga dandasana. However even while keeping the lower part of the body from the toes to the thighs just as in caturanga dandasana, raise the upper part of the body. Make sure that the navel rests between the hands and do puraka kumbhaka...." p65

8 Pascimattanasana or Pascimottanasana
"...This asana has many kramas. Of these the first form has 16 vinyasas. Just doing the asana sthiti by sitting in the same spot without doing these vinyasas will not yield the complete benefits mentioned in the yoga sastras. This rule applies to all asanas.
The first three vinyasas are exactly as for uttanasana. The 4th vinyasa is caturanga dandasana, the 5th vinyasa is urdhvamukhasvanasana, the 6th vinyasa is adhomukhasvanasana. Practise these following the earlier instructions. In the 6th vinyasa, doing puraka kumbhaka, jump and arrive at the 7th vinyasa. That is, from adhomukhasvanasana sthiti, jump forward and move both legs between the arms without allowing the legs to touch the floor. Extend the legs out forward and sit down. Practise sitting like this with the rear part of the body either between the two hands or 4 angulas in front of the hands. It is better to learn the abhyasa krama from a guru. In this sthiti, push the chest forward, do puraka kumbhaka and gaze steadily at the tip of the nose...." p69

11 Janusirsasana

"...This form follows the hatha yoga principles. Another form follows the raja yoga method. The practitioner should learn the difference. First, take either leg and extend it straight out in front. Keep the heel pressed firmly on the floor with the toes pointing upward. That is, the leg should not lean to either side. The base (back) of the knee should be pressed against the ground. Fold the other leg and place the heel against the genitals, with the area above the knee (the thigh) placed straight against the hip. That is, arrange the straight leg which has been extended in front and the folded leg so that together they form an “L”. Up to this point, there is no difference between the practice of the hatha yogi and the raja yogi.
For the hatha yoga practitioner, the heel of the bent leg should be pressed firmly between the rectum and the scrotum. Tightly clasp the extended foot with both hands, raise the head and do puraka kumbhaka. Remain in this position for some time and then, doing recaka, lower the head and place the face onto the knee of the outstretched leg. While doing this, do not pull the breath in. It may be exhaled. After this, raise the head and do puraka. Repeat this on the other side following the rules mentioned above.
The raja yogi should place the back of the sole of the folded leg between the scrotum and the genitals. Now practise following the other rules described above for the hatha yogis. There are 22 vinyasas for janusirsasana. Please note carefully that all parts of the outstretched leg and the folded leg should touch the floor. While holding the feet with the hands, pull and clasp the feet tightly. Keep the head or face or nose on top of the kneecap and remain in this sthiti from 5 minutes up to half an hour. If it is not possible to stay in recaka for that long, raise the head in between, do puraka kumbhaka and then, doing recaka, place the head back down on the knee. While keeping the head lowered onto the knee, puraka kumbhaka should not be done..." p79-80

12 Upavistakonasana

"This has 15 vinyasas. Recaka kumbhaka is its primary principle...." p83

13 Baddhakonasana

"This has 15 vinyasas. The 8th vinyasa is the asana sthiti. The 1st to the 6th vinyasas are like the 1st till the 6th vinyasas for pascimottanasana. In the 7th vinyasa, just like the 7th vinyasa for pascimottanasana, keep the hands down and bring the legs forward in uthpluthi. But instead of straightening them, fold the legs and place them down on the ground. Folding them means that the heel of the right foot is pasted against the base of the right thigh and the heel of the left foot is pasted against the base of the left thigh. When the legs are folded in this manner, the soles of the feet will be facing each other. Hold the sole of the left foot firmly with the left hand and hold the right sole firmly with the right hand. Clasping the soles together firmly, do recaka kumbhaka, lower the head and place it on the floor in front of the feet..."
 p85-86

14 Supta Padangushtasana

"...The first krama for this has 21 vinyasas. Through the 6th vinyasa, it is exactly as for pascimottanasana. In the 7th vinyasa, lie down facing upwards instead of extending the legs and sitting as in pascimottanasana. While lying down, the entire body must be pressed against the ground. The toes must point upwards and the back of the heels must be stuck to the ground. This is also called savasana by other schools. This is the 7th vinyasa for supta padangushthasana. In the 8th vinyasa, slowly raise the right leg straight up. Hold the big toe of the right foot with the fingers of the right hand, do recaka kumbhaka and remain in this position for as long as possible. .."p86

17 Utthitahasta Padangushtasana
"...First, push the chest forward and stand erect with equal balance. While standing this way, make sure that the head, neck, back, hips, arms and legs are aligned properly and gaze at the tip of the nose. The feet must be kept together. Now, raise one leg up slowly and maintain this position with the extended leg kept straight out in front at the height of the navel. The knee should not bend and the leg must be kept straight for the entire time that it is being raised. After the leg has been raised about 3/4 of the way without any assistance, take the first three fingers of the corresponding hand (the same as whichever leg was raised) and tightly clasp the big toe of the raised foot. Remain in this position for some time. Keep the other hand on the hip. Inhalation and exhalation of the breath must be slow and of equal duration. One says the sthiti is correct if there is the same measure of distance between the standing leg and the raised leg. In this there are many other forms.
After staying in this sthiti for some time, take either the face or the nose towards the knee of the raised leg and place it there. Recaka kumbhaka must be done in this sthiti. That is, expel the breath completely from the body, maintain this position and then without allowing any breath into the body, bend the upper body. Now carefully pull in the stomach as much as one’s strength allows and hold it in. Stay in this sthiti for at least one minute..." p99

18 Baddhapadmasana

"...Place the right foot on top of the left thigh and the left foot on top of the right thigh. Take the hands behind the back and tightly clasp the big toe of the right foot with the first three fingers of the right hand and tightly clasp the big toe of the left foot with the first three fingers of the left hand.
Press the chin firmly against the chest. Keep the gaze fixed on the midbrow. Sit down, keeping the rest of the body straight. This has the name baddhapad- masana. This asana must be repeated on the other side (that is, first place the left foot on top of the right thigh and then the right foot on top of the left thigh) in order to exercise both sides of the body.
This has 16 vinyasas. The 8th and 9th vinyasas are the asana sthiti. The other vinyasas are like pascimottanasana. Study the pictures (Figures 4.52, 4.53) and learn how to keep the gaze. In this asana, one must do puraka kumbhaka..." p103

25 Marichasana

"This has 22 vinyasas. This needs to be done on both the left and the right sides. Study the sannaha sthiti (the preparatory state) of marichasana in the picture. This sthiti is the 7th vinyasa.
The right-side marichasana paristhiti is shown in the second picture. Maricha Maharishi was known for bringing this asana to public knowledge and hence it is named for him.
Stay in the 7th vinyasa for some time doing puraka kumbhaka. After this, do recaka and come to the 8th vinyasa. Stay in this position for as long as possible. In case your head starts reeling (you get dizzy), come back to the 7th vinyasa, do puraka kumbhaka, close the eyes and remain here for some time. The dizziness will stop.
The 9th vinyasa is like the 7th vinyasa. The 10th, 11th, 12th and 13th vinyasas are like the 10th, 11th, 12th and 13th vinyasas of janusirsasana.
The 14th vinyasa is marichasana sannaha sthiti on the left side. This is demonstrated in the 3rd picture. The 15th vinyasa is the left-side marichasana paristhiti. This is demonstrated in the 4th picture. In the 14th vinyasa do puraka kumbhaka and in the 15th vinyasa do only recaka..." p115

26 Niralamba Sarvangasana

"This has 14 vinyasas. The 8th vinyasa is the asana sthiti. The form depicted in the picture is the 8th vinyasa. This is niralamba sarvangasana paristhiti. In order to get to this sthiti, slowly raise the arms and legs either together or one-by- one in the 7th vinyasa . Do only recaka at this time. Never do puraka kumbhaka..." p115

27 Ekapada Sirsasana
"This has two forms: dakshina ekapada sirsasana and vama ekapada sirsasana. Both these forms together have 18 vinyasas. The first picture depicts dakshina ekapada sirsasana and the second picture vama ekapada sirsasana. The 7th and 12th vinyasas are the asana sthitis of these different forms. For this asana, you need to do sama svasauchvasam (same ratio breathing). In the 7th vinyasa, the left leg, and in the 12th vinyasa the right leg, should be extended and kept straight from the thigh to the heel. No part should be bent.
Keep the hands as shown in the picture. In this sthiti one needs to do equal ra- tio breathing. When the hands are joined together in ekapada sirsasana paristhiti, one must do puraka kumbhaka. One must never do recaka..." p120

29 Yoga Nidrasana

"This has 12 vinyasas. The 7th vinyasa is yoga nidrasana sthiti. The first 6 vinyasas for kurmasana are the first 6 vinyasas for this. In the 7th vinyasa, sit like you did in dvipada sirsasana and instead of keeping the two legs on the back of the neck, first lie back facing upwards. Then lift the legs up and place them on the back of the neck.
In dvipada sirsasana, we joined the hands together in prayer and placed them next to the muladhara cakra. In this asana, following the krama, take the shoul- ders (that is, the arms) on both the left and right sides over the top of the two thighs, and hold the right wrist tightly with the fingers of the left hand beneath the spine. Study the picture.
In the 7th vinyasa, after doing only recaka, arrive at the asana sthiti. Then, one should do puraka kumbhaka and lie down...." p123

32 Bhairavasana
"This has 20 vinyasas. The 8th and the 14th vinyasas are the right and left side asana sthitis.
From the 1st until the 7th vinyasa, follow the method for ekapada sirsasana. In the 8th vinyasa, instead of keeping the hands at the muladhara cakra (as in ekapada sirsasana), hug both arms together tightly as seen in the picture and lie down looking upwards. While remaining here, do puraka kumbhaka, raise the neck upwards and gaze at the midbrow...". p129

33 Cakorasana
"This has 20 vinyasas. This is from the Kapila Matham.
After observing that this follows the form of flight of the cakora bird, this came to be called cakorasana. In the Dhyana Bindu Upanishad, Parameshwara advises Parvati that “There are as many asanas as there are living beings in the world”. We readers must always remember this. The 8th and 14th vinyasas are this asana’s sthitis. The 7th and the 13th vinyasas are like the 7th and the 13th vinyasas of ekapada sirsasana. In the 8th and the 14th vinyasas, press the palms of the hand firmly into the ground, do puraka kumbhaka, raise the body 6 angulas off the ground and hold it there. Carefully study the picture where this is demonstrated. Keep the gaze fixed on the midbrow. The other vinyasas are like those of bhairavasana..." p131-132

37 Trivikramasana

"This has 7 vinyasas. From the 1st to the 5th vinyasas and then the 7th vinyasa, practise following those for utthita hasta padangushtasana. Practise the 2nd and 7th vinyasas as shown in the picture (study it carefully) and remain in these positions. The 2nd vinyasa is the right-side trivikramasana sthiti. The 6th vinyasa as shown is the left-side trivikramasana sthiti. The picture shown here only demonstrates the left-side trivikramasana. It is important that equal recaka and puraka kumbhaka must be carefully observed while practising this asana. Keep the gaze fixed on the midbrow. Both legs must be held straight and must not lean or bend to any side...".
p136

38 Gandabherundasana

"This has 10 vinyasas. The 6th and 7th vinyasas show the asana sthiti. The first picture shows the 6th vinyasa and the second picture shows the 7th. In the 4th vinyasa, come to caturanga dandasana sthiti and in the 5th vinyasa proceed to viparita salabasana sthiti. In the 6th vinyasa, spread the arms out wide, keeping them straight like a stick (like a wire) as shown in the picture. Take the soles of both feet and place them next to the ears such that the heels touch the arms and keep them there.
Next, do the 7th vinyasa as shown in the second picture. This is called supta ganda bherundasana. In this asana sthiti and in the preliminary positions, do equal recaka puraka kumbhaka. Keep the gaze fixed on the midbrow. This must not be forgotten". p142


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We can see that Krishnamacharya has indicated Kumbhaka in well over half of the asana described in Yoga Makaranda. In Yogasanagalu, Krishnamacharya includes the asana described in Yoga Makaranda and as well as a fuller list of asana divided up into three groups, Primary Middle and Proficient. The Primary and Middle groups correspond closely with the Ashtanga Primary and Intermediate series presented by Krishnamacharya's student from the Yoga Makaranda/Yogasanagalu period, Pattabhi Jois.


Interestingly, in the full table of asana found in Yogasanagalu Krishnamacharya indicates the appropriate kumbhaka but these are mostly found from the middle group onwards. However, because kumbhaka is found in the fuller descriptions of Primary asana found in the same book (and taken from Yoga makaranda) it may well be that in the beginning students would not include kumbhaka. Once students had gained some proficiency then kumbhaka may well have been introduced into the primary asana as well as the middle and proficient asana. this may also explain why Pattabhi Jois in his manual, Yoga Mala failed to include kumbhaka in his asana descriptions. One further point, in the book released by AG Mohan which he has titled Yoga Makaranda part II, Kumbhaka has been indicated but tends to be short, beginning at two seconds and rising to five seconds with proficiency. 









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See also this earlier post
TKV Desikachar speaking about exploring the breath in Asana and pranayama

My Krishnamacharya Blog

KRISHNAMACHARYA'S 'ORIGINAL' ASHTANGA PROJECT

and the ongoing

Yogasanagalu Translation Project


'Much More to Mysore' Part II - Vinay Kumar and Prana Vashya's kumbhaka

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Trianga mukhottanasana -Vinay Kumar Prana Vashya

If you saw my guest post from Michelle recently ( Much More to Mysore) you'll see that she was writing about some of the other shala options available in Mysore, good to know with KPJAYI  filling up so quickly each year.

"There appears to be a misconception amongst some yoga practitioners that coming to Mysore means coming to study at KPJAYI (http://kpjayi.org), but that just isn't true. And unfortunately many people are put off coming to study in Mysore, worrying that their practice is somehow under-par. This makes me extremely sad! The truth is that there are tens of yoga teachers in Mysore, teaching all types of yoga. There's literally a style of yoga for everyone. In my group of friends one friend was studying classical hatha yoga at Yoga Dharshanam (http://www.yogadarshanam.org), another was a beginner studying with Saraswati, one at Mystic School (http://mysoreyoga.in), one at the Mandala (www.ashtanga.org) and one with Vinay Kumar (www.pranavashya.com). I study with Vinay's younger brother Vijay at Ashtanga Saadhana (www.ashtangasaadhana.com). Such a great mix of people and everyone has something great to say about their respective teachers.

This year saw an unprecedented number of applications to study at KPJAYI. Having planned this trip for 18 months I was pretty shocked when registration to study at KPJAYI was closed within just two days...and I was too late! I think every month now until February is already full (and the shala closes in March), which means that unless you plan strategically, you may be disappointed! So, fear not - you can study in Mysore"! 
from Michelle Much More to Mysore

Michelle is practising pretty standard Ashtanga with Vijay Kumar I believe, this post is about Vijay's big brother Vinay Kumar.

I was very curious to hear that in his Prana Vashyu  approach to Yoga, Vinay Kumar employs kumbhaka (breath locks) - see my previous post on Krishnamacharya and Kumbhaka.

Here' Vinya Kumar's introduction from his website

"Pranayama is such an essential part of yoga, I focused on its relationship to performing the asana and discovered that the asana actually follows the breath and not the other way around if done properly with full awareness. Prana Vashya follows the breath instead of following the movement and maintains the rhythm of the breath throughout the practice. Through breath control, Prana Vashya keeps the attention fixed on the asana, not allowing the mind to wander. Utilizing Kumbhakas (breath locks) in certain movements while performing asana and vinyasa has a very powerful and dynamic effect that develops intense stamina Physically, Physiologically and Psychologically.

This developed capacity can be drawn from the mat and taken into life.

Practice Prana Vashya Yoga for these benefits".

Vinay Kumar.


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I'm very curious how he goes about employing the kumbhaka's, does it follow the descriptions we find in Krishnamacharya, if not how does it differ.


Here's part of an interview from his website where he talks about kumbhaka

"So Prana Vashya Yoga is really more pranayama practice....

"Not as pranayama is generally understood. Pranayama is often a separate yoga practice whereas traditionally it was always a part of it. Prana Vashya Yoga fully integrates the two, in great part, with the application of kumbhakas (breath locks) so that one also experiences the effect of pranayama during the asana practice. There are actually sixty asanas in the sequence."

Can you talk a bit more about kumbhakas?

"A significant development of potential is experienced during the practice of kumbhakas. The use of kumbhakas helps quiet the mind and keeps the awareness on the breath/asana. The body experiences a better development in its resistance power and this helps to impart the complete effect of the asana practice without fatigue. Concentration on the bandhas isn't necessary when consciousness is on the simultaneous action of the breath and movements."

How does it compare to Ashtanga, Hatha, Iyengar, etc? Is PVY adaptable to other styles?

"The vinyasa is different, but most of the asanas are essentially the same; there are just more of them. Prana Vashya vinyasa provides a true equilibrium for the upper and lower body as there is a complete utilization of the shoulders, hip joints, thigh muscles, calf muscles, and hamstrings which help build and maintain strength and stamina in the legs as well.

Prana Vashya is distinguished by its unique approach to flow and balance. The flow is slow, deliberate, and deep, and the body is trained evenly along its front, back and transverse lines. This approach equally trains the body in strength, balance and flexibility while calming the mind and nervous system.

As I mentioned, Prana Vashya Yoga asanas are essentially the same as Hatha and Iyengar, but with an intensified application of each asana, and the attention and utilization of the breath and kumbhakas (breath locks). It is not difficult to learn the basic vinyasa, though becoming adept as it requires increased stamina, balance and flexibility. There is a different dynamic to the Prana Vashya Yoga breath/asana relationship. It takes 1-2 weeks to really start to experience this dynamic and it is quite profound. Prana Vashya Yoga can be considered as an enhancement to an existing practice, not as a conflict." http://www.pranavashya.com/interview

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Here's a Video of the prana vashya sun salutation (from here http://www.pranayoga.cz), it's a little different from what we're familiar with perhaps, the breath locks are indicated (you may have to watch it on YouTube to see the annotations).



UPDATE: Gabriella has kindly commented on this post, here's the part on Kumbhaka 

"About kumbaka. Yes, the Prana Vashya sequence includes many antar kumbhakas or puraka, after inhalation kumbakas, and bahir (outside) or recaka, after exhalation kumbhakas. Vinay only requires regular people to do the kumbhakas in the vinyasas but if you study a teacher's training course with him it all gets even more elaborate. Studying one on one with him I had to do kumbhakas not only in vinyasa, but also for coming into the positions most of the time. This was a natural development for me, since after a while my body naturally started to hold the breath in and out. Practicing this way brings about a moving meditation, and the stilling of the mind. That is actually a general experience many students feel after taking up the practice". 


For more about my experiences with Prana Vashya yoga, please read my previous blog post: http://yoginigabi.blogspot.hu/2012/09/prana-vashya-transformation-in-body-and.html

Here's a taste from Gabrielle's blog post

"I am sitting on the floor in padmasana. It is hot outside, the cows are lowing, the street is full of noises. In the smaller room I am sitting with another eight in silence. Oooone, twooooo, threeee...I hear the annoyingly slow counts. Vinay's calm but ruthless commands dictate my breath. I feel I am suffocating, I cannot breathe so slowly. On top of that, my body wants to boil from the inside. I thought that with two Indian TTCs and years of practice under my belt, I can do yoga, but I start to understand that this is the beginning of the real practice.
“For true practice to occur, you must give justice to every breath”, says Vinay and he means it. There are no excuses, you must follow his breath choreography not only during the pranayama class, but also during asana practice.

There is no yoga without conscious breathing. This information has been coded into my cells during the months I spent with him. Prana Vashya, prana control, in other words the extension of consciousness and the life force to our every part. This makes the system of Prana Vashya truly unique. It creates such a focus in the practitioner, that leads to an elevated level of consciousness where physical and internal transformation can take place.
I learned it through my own experience. During the months in India, I acquired such an incredible physical strength and stamina that was wowed by my fellow students. Though the most important change happened on the inside. The eye is the mirror of the soul and funnily enough I also recognized that my look has changed in India this time. It became more powerful, meaningful and determined. I grew up and found the way back to myself." http://yoginigabi.blogspot.hu/2012/09/prana-vashya-transformation-in-body-and.html

Prana Vashya Yoga

http://www.pranayoga.cz

http://www.pranayoga.cz

http://www.pranayoga.cz

A you Tube video from F. Gabriella Toth showing some of the asana, speeded up though so we don't get to see how the kumbhaka (breath locks ) are employed.
Here's a version of her site put through google translate


If anyone has studied with Vinya Kumar in mysore and can explain his use of Kumbhaka to me in asana, where and how long I would be grateful, otherwise I may well have to make the trip myself.

If anyone sends anything (guest post?) in I'll update the post accordingly

Vinay Kumar himself in a demonstration.

Jump to four minutes in for the beginning of the demonstration, amazing backbend in the first sun salutation.
At his shala in Mysore there is a back bending class in the afternoons that is suppose to be..... transformative

 





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Going back a while, back when I had my last case of severe does of asana madness I posted a picture on my blog, a posture that I has seen somewhere and wanted to try but didn't know the name of.

My guess was Ardha baddha padma eka pada raja kapotasana 

Turns out it was this by Vinay Kumar's 


Except that on his back bending flexibility stage 1 gallery page
he calls it Eka pada raja kapotasana

On my earlier post Vinya was kind enough to leave a comment clearing it up.
  1. Namasthe,
    The position is called Baddha (bound) Eka Pada Raja Kapottasana. There seems to be a mistake done while uploading the photo and their names.
    Vinay Kumar,
    Prana Vashya Yoga Shala,
    Mysore.
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Chakra Bhandasana - Grab heels in a month backbend challenge

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I must admit I've never been that bothered about grabbing my heels and taking my dropback into chakra bhandasana. Dropping back and coming up was a big deal to me, loved working on that, making it all much more controlled, smoother, but more than anything making the breath steady, the mind calm and focussed.

But then I got to thinking recently, as I began work on getting my kapo back, grabbing your heels in kapo is a big deal, something to hold on to such that you can draw your body nicely into the asana and settle. I don't mean tug and pull and wrench yourself in but using the heels to guide yourself into the full expression of the posture and then settle down to work on the breath.

Perhaps chakra bhandasana is something like that, getting something to hold on to ...where does that take you I wonder and what is it to breathe there, really breath.

And besides I need a challenge, gone a little soft. Those three months or so of being ill took their toll and it's only now I feel like my practice is coming back, that I'm starting to feel, I don't know, vibrant again.

I don't want to mess with my regular practice, interesting stuff going on in there at the moment with the mantras, lamrim, the breath, kumbhakas, all in my asana practice.... but back bends, can play with backbends.

And I saw this video from  Jen René Peg Mulqueenand Michael Joel Hall.  Michael, now he's a tall fella. This is the kind of Yoga video I like, the work in progress, just beginning to get it kind of yoga video, inspiring. Michael makes me think that yeah, I could do this. But it's Peg's section a minute in that iIfound particularly interesting, standing much closer to the wall than I've ever dared, interesting, was trying in this morning.

Actually I just watched it again and am thinking about the role of the bolsters, was trying to get a picture of Peg with her hands flat but they never go flat but rather spider walk along the bolster...it's kind of graffiti 'David Garrigues  was yur'.



And it's like Christmas, want to go to sleep early so the morning comes more quickly and I can open presents.

Here's the video. Supposedly there was a Madonna track on it but somebody complained so you'll have to hum your favourite Madonna tune.


And OK here where I am currently with my own backbend, this is from this morning. I usually practice three feet from the wall so i can touch off the first couple of times coming back up. I haven't been practicing them much recently, three drop back every other day perhaps.


Hopefully this video will appear soon, just uploaded it but have to run off to work.


I think the closet I ever got walking in was to just touching my heels ( must find a picture) so this is something new.

Kind of playing on my old Richard Freeman 14 day Karandavasana challenge.

Besides I'm interested in studying with Vinay Kumar in Mysore, see yesterday's post and he does a lot of work on backbends, so need to tidy mine up a little at my own pace.

Here's Vinay Kumar of Mysore from one of the videos I added to my post yesterday (Much more to Mysore part II), the second video I think but if backbends are your thing you'll want to watch all of the second and third videos, it's quite a demo.


Vinay Kumar, a way to go then...

A Mystery: Who was 'The Old Man of Hassan', one of Krishnamacharya's earliest students, pre Mysore, a link to Tibet?

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WARNING: This is Pure speculation, a bit of fun only.....for now.
What happened to all these kids, did any of them end up teaching Yoga?

In recent posts I've been looking at  the idea of 'Much more to Mysore', following Michelle's recent guest post. Michelle is studying Ashtanga with Vijay Kumar in Mysore and in yesterday's post I focused on Vijay's big brother Vinay, the former 'Yoga Champion', who teaches a vinyasa approach to Yoga in Mysore that he calls Prana Vashya Yoga

But where did Vinay and Vijay learn their Yoga, were they students of Pattabhi Jois? Vijay does teach pretty standard Ashtanga by all accounts.

Turns out that Vijay Kumar was taught by his brother Vinay, but who was Vinay's teacher?

This is what I've heard.....

"So Vijay's asana teacher is Vinay. No-one else. He started when he was 12 learning from Vinay, that was 14 years ago. Vijay's other yoga teacher (philosophy etc) is an old guy in a little village near his mother's home town of Hassan".

Had this 'old guy' also been his brother Vinay's teacher?

The old Man of Hassan

How's your Ashtanga Vinyasa history? Krishnamacharya was working for a time in a coffee plantation around 1925/26. In fact that was where the young Pattabhi Jois first saw him. Krishnamacharya was giving a demo and lecture there on yoga ('...jumping from asana to asana' according to Pattabhi Jois).

Krishnamacharya's son Desikachar mentioned in his book about his father that Krishnamacharya struggled to attract enough students in the beginning so had to take a job for a time on a coffee plantation...... in Hassan

'enough students', so Krishnamacharya was teaching yoga even back then, of course he was.

Supposedly Pattabhi Jois walked a few miles from his house to Hassan every morning, for two years, to study Yoga with Krishnamacharya ( although I believe Jois' school was actually in Hassan so he would have had to walk there anyway, still he had to get up a couple of hours earlier).

"Sri K. Pattabhi Jois began to practice astanga yoga at age 12. He had seen a demonstration and heard a speech by T. Krishnamacharya in Hassan's community hall in March of 1927, and this impacted him greatly. After intense questioning by T. Krishnamacharya, two days later K. Pattabhi Jois stood on a mat as a student (sasthaka) of Krishnamacharya and received his first Astanga Vinyasa Yoga class under his soon-to-be Guru. He came and practiced daily with him for two years.

The path of yoga is not necessarily ideal for a child living in a regular Brahmin family. Yoga used to prepare the aspirant for the life of a monk (sannyasis), living outside of society and was not of particular benefit to being part of a family. This ended up causing some conflict with his parents, and for a time he chose to hide his intense interest in the path of yoga. The 12-year-old Pattabhi Jois woke up two hours before his school-classmates, walked five kilometers along a path to Hassan, where T. Krishnamacharya's school was, did his practice while Krishnamacharya counted the vinyasas... and then went to regular school"http://www.petriraisanen.com/guruji.asp


So here's the question?

Who else did Krishnamacharya teach in Hassan?

Vinay's teacher perhaps?

If the had studied with Krishnamacharya as a boy he would have been an old man by the time Vijay and/or Vinay met him.

Speculation of course but.....

Vinay's approach to asana, which he calls Prana Vashya  is a vinyasa based system, movements follow the breath. It's very similar to the Ashtanga we know and love, especially if like me ( and Manju Jois too supposedly) you do a mixture of Primary and 2nd series with a couple of advanced postures thrown in for luck.

Prana Vashya Yoga
It only seems to have been Krishnamacharya who was teaching vinyasa, especially back in those days, a coincidence then that an old man in Hassan, where Krishnamacharya used to teach, teaches Vinyasa ( assuming this is the approach Vinay was taught back then).

Vinay teaches Kumbhaka in Asana, again, that has Krishnamacharya written all over it seem my recent post (UPDATED: Why did Krishnamacharya introduce kumbhaka (breath retention) into the practice of asana in Ashtanga?).

"A significant development of potential is experienced during the practice of kumbhakas. The use of kumbhakas helps quiet the mind and keeps the awareness on the breath/asana. The body experiences a better development in its resistance power and this helps to impart the complete effect of the asana practice without fatigue. Concentration on the bandhas isn't necessary when consciousness is on the simultaneous action of the breath and movements." Vinay Kumar

This of course would link Vinay back to the pre Mysore Krishnamacharya, one small step closer to the cave in the Himalayas perhaps and Krishnamacharya's own teacher Yogeshwara Ramamohana Brahmachari.

Of course it may well be that Vinay began practicing and teaching a vinyasa approach when he moved to Mysore and he might have read about kumbhaka in asana, just as I did, in Krishnamacharya's Yoga Makaranda, but when, I wonder, did he teach his brother Vijay, in Mysore or Hassan, and what did he teach him in the beginning a vinyasa practice not unlike Ashtanga Primary?

Speculation, complete speculation of course and perhaps in a day or two I'll hear more and the connection will turn out to be nonsense but Krishnamacharya did teach in Hassan, what happened to those kids,  I  do love the idea of The Mystery of The Old Man of Hassan.


Krishnamacharya 1925?

Vidya -Ramaswami's Novemeber 2013 Newsletter. 'How to find the me within me' - Kosha's, Subtle body etc. -

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Warm greetings

I have uploaded about 50 videos so far on You Tube. I have grouped them into five play lists

1.Yoga sutra
2.Sanskrit chants
3.Vinyasakrama asana videos
4.vinyasakrama asana slide shows
5. Yoga Talks.

I hope you would like them and share with your yoga friends. Here is the link.
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdpNhq6SnkMlKhi34EOIFTg/videos?view=1

The Yoga Sutra group contains chanting tutorial of all the four chaptersof Yoga Sutra, Patanjali Prayer, and also a recitation of the entire yoga sutra. I hope to be able to include video talks on YS in due course.

Sanskrit chants are those I learnt from Sri Krishnamacharya for several years and include, the Ten vedic peace chants, Siva chants and others.

The asana videos give some insight to asana practice by vinyasakrama approach and also include several videos from the 1980s when I did a number of TV programs in India with my students in Kalakshetra.

The slide shows use the pictures from my book.

There are a few yoga talks which may be helpful in looking at yoga from some different perspectives.

Hope you can find some time for browsing and watching these audiovisuals. Please let me know whether you like them and also if you think anything else may be useful.

I find that I may have to work for some more time (a year or two) if I can—social security and medicare obligation excuse. In 2014, I am planning to do the TT program again at LMU, go to London and Wells for teaching programs organized by my friend Steve Brandon of Harmony Yoga and Chicago Yoga Center. I may also go to Miami and Ananda Asram in New York for workshops.

VIDYA
The words vidyā, viduṣa, veda,vidvān all come from the root 'vid' to know. Vidyā is knowledge or body of knowledge. Upaniṣads contain a number of vidyās, all aimed at disclosing the nature of the ultimate reality Brahman, and we have several upaniṣad vidyās

Sri Kṛṣnamacarya taught us several such upaniṣad vidyās. The famous pañcakośa vidyā from the taitiriya upaniṣad is one of them. He taught us to chant this oft chanted upaniṣad and also the vidyā contained in it. Then we have the pranava vidyā detailed in the upaniṣad called Mandukya upaniṣad. from the atharva veda. This vidyā interprets the sacred syllable “OM” as representing the pure consciousness the ultimate reality referred in many upaniṣads as Brahman. Yogis may find some similarity ( and some differences) between how Patañjali interprets pranava and how this upanishad explains it. Then he also taught an important vidyā called “sadvidyā” from the Chandogya Upanishad belonging to the Sāma Veda. Sat would mean truth and here it would indicate that which really exists again represented as Brahman. This vidyā contains the famous mahāvākya or great saying “tat tvam asi” or 'that you are'

As we were going through different upaniṣad vidyās one day I asked him. If all these vidyās are about the same reality then why the vedas have so many different vidyās. My Guru said something on these lines “Different sages teaching to disciples of different capabilities and temperaments at different times at different places.” Bādrāyana harmonized the various upaniṣad vidyās into one single work called Brahmasutras, a classic which has very many commentaries written.

All these help lead us to locate and understand the ultimate reality in us, the pure consciousness, the awareness-the Self- (with) which we experience everything. How to find the soul within this body? How to find me within me? This is what the upaniṣad vidyā, the pancha kosa vidyā of the taittiriya upaniṣad attempts to expound.

It starts with the physical body all of us identify as 'oneself'. It occupies physical space and for convenience is considered to have five parts, the head, the right limb (wing) the left limb (wing), the torso and fifthly the lower extremities, or the tail. The wings and the tail are mentioned in the upaniṣad considering the body as that of a bird. Anyway there are five parts of the body which itself is made of seven humors. It is the material body or annamaya.

This is the gross body all of us are familiar with. Subtler than this is the body of prāna or prāna sarira. It is the energy body. Just as the skeleton gives a structure to the physical body, it is the prāna sarira (or prana maya kośa)which upholds the body and makes it work, without which the physical body can not even stand up. Miśra the commentator of the yoga sutra while on the 'prayatna saitilya' sutra in the Yoga sutras calls prāna as śarira dhāraka or that which holds up the body. This prāna sarira also has five parts, the prāna, apāna, vyāna, udāna and samāna. The prāna is considered to be the head or top part of this. Its main function is respiration especially drawing prāna vāyu into the lungs or svāsa kosa. Then we have vyāna which is responsible for the entire circulation in the body. It takes prānavāyu and other nutrients to different parts of the body, different cells. It is said to be like the right limb of the prāna body. Then apāna is said to be the left limb or wing of this subtle body. Apāna is responsible to excrete waste products from the body. Then the upaniṣad refers to samāna as the trunk or torso of the body, samāna is said to be responsible for the harmonizing the food we eat, And finally the udāna vāyu which looks upward is the one that is said to be the support and that balances the forces prāna and apāna or inhalation and exhalation. It is therefore referred to as the seat (or lower limbs) or the tail. It could be seen that the prāna sarira or the prāna-maya-kosa is the energy body or the forces that dominate the autonomic nervous system. The sāmkhyas refer to the five factored prāna as an activity of citta (brain) and the vritti or activity as samanya vritti or sāmānya karanā vritti which corresponds to autonomic or independent kind of brain's activity. Respiration (prāna), circulation (vyāna), excretion (apāna), digestion (samāna) and maintaining balance between inspiration and exhalation is udāna constitute the energy body. When udāna fails, prāna or inspiration does not start at the end of the breathing cycle resulting in death. Mere prāna or respiration is not sufficient to maintain life, a complete system the prāna maya, is necessary to maintain life. If there is no prānamaya then the annamaya alone would be a body but a lifeless one.

The next kośa which is suppler than this is called mano-maya. This subtle body, subtler than the prāna maya again is visualized by the sage as made of five parts.,The head of the manomaya is yajurveda, the right limb or wing is the rig veda, the sāma veda is the left limb or wing. The tail, seat or support is the atharva veda and the heart or torso is the “ādeśa' or vedic or upaniṣadic instructions.
While it is not difficult to relate the five aspects of annamaya and prānamaya, it is rather difficult to say that the manomaya is made up of the various vedas. Perhaps one in a million may have studied all the four vedas and understood them properly. How about my mano maya - of one who has no idea what the vedas are? Here we have to consider that the sage is talking about his/her mano maya. He or she has studied the vedas and the mind is full of vedic knowledge. Further the basic information about the subject on hand which is the knowledge about the Self is contained in the upaniṣads, a part of the vedas.

Manas is considered to be a representative term for the entire group of indriyas, the five sense instruments and the five karma indriyas or instruments of activity, the mind being the coordinating aspect of this group. The Sāmkhyas call this group the ekādaśa or 11 indriyas. An infant grows up collecting information from the outside world through the senses which education goes on all life. Information through the eyes ,ears, and by touch smell and taste reach the mind which processes and coordinates them and some of which is retained as memory in the mind. The information I have is different from what someone else may have or the vedic ṛṣi may have got. Since the olden days sanskrit was not a written language a lot of information as the four vedas were chanted by the teacher which were heard and memorized by the student. Thus the mano maya is the subtle body of the citta that collected and retained information. This is represented by the upaniṣad as the mano maya with the four vedas as different parts of this subtle body and the core instructions as the heart of this body of knowledge. If there were no manomaya kośa the person would be in a comatose state until the prānaṛṣ leaves the body.

There is the fourth body subtler than the manomaya which is called vijñanamaya. This is the kosa which has the ability to analyze data and come to conclusions, hopefully the correct one. The other term used for vijñana is buddhi. Sāmkhyas call buddhi as that which is able to break down data like a farmer using a sharp plough is able to break the earth and make it fit for cultivation. How does this kosa operate? It has śraddha or faith as the head. ṛtam or straightforwardness is the right side of it and then truth is the left limb or wing. Yoga or one-pointedness/samādhi is the heart of this kosa and it rests on mahat or universal intelligence. śraddhā -- initially one should start with the faith that the knowledge about the self can be found the vedas/upaniṣads. ṛtam will refer to an open mind or straightforward thinking. Satyam would refer to the truth of the Self. Then how can the truth be found out. By ekāgrata or yogic samādhi and that is the implication of yoga being the heart of the whole endevour. And Mahat is universal intelligence (the order or dharma of the universe) which is said to support (puccha) this vijñanamaya.

Then the last subtle kośa or sheath is the ānanda maya which is identified as the bliss kosa or one may say the place of emotions or ego. Without this everyone would be like a moron, a robot. This is also visualized to have five parts. The head is identified with priya. Commentators refer to priya as the feeling one gets when recalling a distant object one likes, just the visualization. The right limb of this is moda. The example is the feeling when one gets the object desired. Then the left wing is pramoda or something similar to the feeling one gets when one uses/enjoys the desired object. Then ananda the generalized feeling of satisfaction is the core or heart of this kośa and finally the whole range is said to be established (puccha) on Brahman the ultimate reality. Since the whole exercise is about realizing the Brahman, here priya the head would indicate the feeling one gets thinking about oneself, the dearest thing. Then the moda would indicate the feeling one gets by identifying the true self by study of the these vidyās. Then the pramoda would be what one gets when one conclusively understands the true nature of oneself by repeated meditation on it. Then ananda would indicate the feeling when one is directly able to experience through Yoga samādhi. Ultimately one realizes the Brahman and loses one's own individual identity and remains merged in Brahman. These are the stages of ānanda.

These kosas or all the bodies, gross and the subtle ones are to be kept clean (śuddha) or highly satvic. Yoga helps in such a clean up. Asanas help the annamaya, prānāyāma the prānamaya, pratyāhāra the manomaya, antaranga sādhanā the vijñanamaya and finally nirodha or nirvikalpa the ānandamaya.
The vedas have a a beautiful mantra “ātma śuddhi mantra”. One line of it specifically prays for the purification of all the five kosas so that one can clearly work through the kosas and realize the underlying Brahman/ātman the pure unwavering consciousness, the core, the foundation of my being.
“annamaya, prānamaya, manomaya, vijñanamaya. ānandamaya me śudhyantām, jyotiraham, virajā vipāpmā bhuyasam, svāhā”. The Brahman or the self which is pure unwavering consciousness is beyond the five kosas but is the support of the five layered body

This pancakośa vidyā is one comprehensive upaniṣad vidyā or a step by step system of knowing oneself. And there are quite a few other choices the upaniṣads offer.

The long Sanskrit vowel 'O' (as in boat) is considered a diphthong by Sanskrit scholars and vedic sages. “O' may be considered compound vowel of 'a' ( as in up) and 'u' (as in put). Try to say 'a' (as in up) and then momentarily in the same breath 'u' (as in put) also, then we have “O” The pranava or 'OM' mantra is made up of O and ending with the consonant 'M' Actually the first vowel in Sanskrit is 'a' and the last consonant is 'M' leaving aside the siblings. So 'OM' or “AUM' would contain the first sound when one opens he mouth “a' (as in up) and 'M' when one closes the mouth and hence he pranava is considered to contain the entire alphabets and the entire vedas. Here in the pranava vidyā as found in Māndukya Upaniṣad, the syllable “OM' is considered made up of a, u and m. .a. is identified with the pure consciousness, the Brahman in the individual waking state, 'u' in the dream state and 'm' in the deep sleep state, the three states (avasthā) of awareness of the same atman or brahman. And then it refers to the transcendental state as the fourth state of awareness or the turiya avastā the state of pure consciousness which is what the previously discussed pancakośa vidyā leads the abhyāsi to. There is another brief vidyā in Mahānārayana upanishad on these lines. The pranava is associated with three vyāhritis, viz., om bhuh, om bhuvah and om suvah. The three vyahritis represent the three states of waking ,dream and deep sleep. The sage māhācamasya talks about a fourth state of consciousness beyond the three all of us are familiar with. He calls it 'caturti' or the fourth. That he calls it as maha, so the fourth vyāhriti 'om mahah' represents the fourth state of consciousness. The upanishad affirmatively says 'that' consciousness is the atman, the brahman (tat brahma, sa atma)

Then the famous prānāyama mantra in the same upaniṣad refers to seven vyāhritis all of which refer to seven states of consciousness, four at the microcosmic level and three at the macrocosmic level. In this the first four 'om bhuh, om bhuvah, om suvah and om mahah' would refer to individual consciousness and the other three 'om janah om tapah and om satyam' representing the pure state, the state of contemplation and the state of actual creation by the supreme being. The message is to consider that the same consciousness prevails in its pure state as satya (om satyam), then in the contemplative state before creation, identified as .'om tapah' then in the state of creation it is known as 'om janah'. Then the same consciousness is known further down at the micro level as the fourth state 'om mahah' and then the three individual states. The whole exercise done along with prānāyāma is to contemplate on one Consciousness in all the seven states three at the macro level and four in the micro level, the fourth being a state obtained after practicing these vidyās and understand the unity of consciousness.

The yogis on the other hand identify the states of the mind, citta into five categories called citta vrittis. These can be related to the three avastas of pranava vidyā. The nidra vritti would correspond to the sushupti avastā . Pramāna, viparyaya and smriti may be considered as forming the jāgrat avastā or waking state and finally the vikalpa will basically correspond to the svapna avastā. The nirodha state of the citta will correspond to the turiya state of the ātman (individual self) or the kailvalya.
There are several upaniṣad vidyas and scholars have identified 32 as very important mostly belonging to the 10 major upaniṣads. A Brahma Vidya is a path of contemplative meditation taught in the Upaniṣads. The passage of time has largely obscured the nature and culture of these meditations, and subsequent discussions of them are largely academic, drawing on the texts and their subsequent treatment in the Brahma Sutras. Scholars eventually identified the upaniṣad meditations or vidyās as 32.

One such enumeration is given below:
Sad Vidyā,Antaraaditya Vidyā ,ākāśa Vidyā. Prāna Vidyā, Paramjyoti Vidyā. śāndilya Vidyā. Upakośala Vidyā , Vaiśvānara Vidyā , Bhuma Vidyā ,Satyakāma Vidyā .Dahara Vidyā .Madhu Vidyā .Samvarga Vidyā , Gāyatri Vidyā .Pancāgni Vidyā ,Akshi Vidyā .Antaryāmi Vidyā .Akshara Vidya , Jyotishām jyotir Vidyā , Maitreyi Vidyā , Sarvāntarātma Vidya .ānandamaya (panchakosa) Vidyā . Vāruni Vidyā , Nyāsa Vidyā , , Paramapurusha Vidyā , Naciketa Vidyā. Angushta-pramita Vidyā . Paryanka Vidyā , Pratardana Vidyā , Bālāki Vidyā . Aksharapara Vidya , Isāvāsya Vidyā

Other well known vidyas include pranava vidyā, dahara vidyā.
Sri Krṣnamācārya taught many of them in addition to teaching the nuances of āsanas, prānāyāma, bhakti meditation, vinyāsasakrama, religious and philosophical texts, wonderful sanskrit chants and many more. Putting all his teaching merely in the āsana straight jacket is not doing justice to his scholarship, experience and what he did as a compassionate teacher . His teaching had a very far reach and it is necessary to explore and bring out the many facets of his teachings so that modern yogis may benefit.

What is the use of these upaniṣad vidyās?
They help remove avidyā

Sincerely
Srivatsa Ramaswami

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Facts/stories - Seven years in Tibet: Krishnamacharya in the Himalayas with his Guru.....Where exactly?

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On an recent post 'The Old man of Hassan', about the possibility of a lost student of Krishnamacharya's pre Mysore teaching, it was suggested in a comment that I should just get in touch and check the facts. Good advice indeed and I usually tend to spend quite some time researching most of the historical posts I put up here, they are still always full of speculation but not without some supporting evidence at least.

The Old man of Hassan post was a bit of fun though, here's my response to the comment.

"I could (get in touch and check the facts) but where's the fun in that Enrique, there is a time for facts and a time for romance, the idea of 'The old man of Hassan' is romance.,
Here's a thought, what if Krishnamacharya had never met the Maharaja, perhaps HE, Krishnamacharya, would have been the Old man of Hassan, or if the young Pattabhi Jois hadn't run off to Mysore, maybe the old man of Hassan would have been him (Pattabhi Jois went to High School in Hassan), or perhaps going by yoginigabi's comment above it could be an old Woman of Hassan rather than an old man. Besides I've been in this game long enough to not lay much store by facts, I've come to the conclusion there are stories and there is practice.

There is a great line from the classic Western, The man who shot Liberty Valance

Ransom Stoddard: You're not going to use the story, Mr. Scott?
Maxwell Scott: No, sir. This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.

Romance, stories, facts and legends..... does anything sum that up better, in our line of work/interest, than the Story of the young Krishnamacharya going to the Himalayas, to find his guru in a cave by Lake Manasarova and studying Ashtanga Vinyasa yoga with him for seven and a half years.

It is the source of our Ashtanga Vinyasa lineage ( and of many of the other spin-off styles), Pattabhi Jois was taught by Krishnamacharya who was taught by Rama Mohana Brahmacharya in a cave in the Himalaya's, Rama Mohana Brahmacharya was taught by...... well, we don't know.

But is this Seven years in Tibet fact, fiction, a little of both....

I stumbled across this stunningly beautiful video of the lake recently and there's a cave! The first thing to go through my mind was Rama Mohana Brahmacharya cave?



Below we have the story supposedly in Krishnamacharya's own words, or in translation at least.
"The Viceroy sent three aides with me. This was some time in 1919. The expense of the journey was covered by the British government. Clothes of leather were made to order to protect us from the cold. On the trail we came across a recluse named Pilmugi living in a cave. We stayed in the cave with him for several days, and then continued on our journey. We reached Manasasarovar and from there went on to Mela Parvatham. We had dharsan of Thirayambaka Narayana and finally reached the dwelling place of Rama Mohana Brahmacharya who was to be my Guru. We had been walking for two and a half months".

from The King and the Young Man
AYS Ashtanga Yoga Sangha

I've always had the romantic image of Krishnamacharya living in a cave for seven and a half years with his guru learning about yoga, doing his practice down by the lake, melting the snow with his pranayama. But look again at the passage from the interview.

"We reached Manasasarovar and from there went on to Mela Parvatham. We had dharsan of Thirayambaka Narayana and finally reached the dwelling place of Rama Mohana Brahmacharya who was to be my Guru".

Interestingly this is left out from the old KYM biography of Krishnamacharya (Yogacarya Krishnamacharya - The Purnacarya. Edited by Mala Srivatsan) which seems to have been based on the same interview. Instead we get

"Krishnamacharya set out for nepal and visited the MUktinarayana Shrine and bathed at the origin of the river Gandaki. here he picked a Saligrama. He continued his journey and reached Manasarovar after twenty two days having trekked 211 miles

Krishnamacharya went searching for the ashram of Rama Mohana Brahmacari. In a cave, a very tall hermit with a long beard, wearing wooden shoes, stood at the entrance. it was evident to krishnamacharya that this was his guru"

The next paragraph begins with "The master took Krishnamacharya to the Manasarove Lake and showed him round the place".

When the legend becomes fact, print the legend?

No mention of Mela Parvatham ( Parvatham festival) not in Desikachar's Biography of Krishnamacharya or the one by the grandson either.

We are left with the image of Krishnamacharya living with his guru in a cave by a lake but it appears he traveled further on from the cave to meet and live with his Guru. There's reference to Parvatham (five peaks) in connection to the shrines at Kedernath and Jyotirmath both with shrines and temples where festivals are celebrated.

"We reached Manasasarovar and from there went on to Mela Parvatham. We had dharsan of Thirayambaka Narayana and finally reached the dwelling place of Rama Mohana Brahmacharya who was to be my Guru".



"Kedarnath is situated in the Himalayan slopes in the Gharwal district of Uttar Pradesh. The uniqueness and greatness of this temple sees mention in the vedas, ithihaasaas, epics.

The term Kedara for the Lord denotes
* The Lord who holds the holy Ganges in his matted locks & allows it to flow evenly to the world. 
* It could also mean the mark that is left on the Lord's head from the time when Arjuna got the Paasupathastram.

This shrine is located at an elevation of 11,735 feet above sea level. The region of the Himlayas, where the shrine is located is known by several names such as Gandhamadana parvatham, Sumera parvatham, Pancha parvatham, etc. (Pancha parvatham, for this is the spot of five sacred peaks namely Rudra Himalayas, Vishnupuri, Brahmapuri, Udayagiri & Swargarohini.

The exterior of the temple is rather simple, but the interior is adorned with marvellous sculptures. In the garba griha is an irregular shaped conical rock which is about five feet by four feet. Lord Siva in the form of jyotirlingam is worshipped here as Lord Kedareshwar. It is believed that the jotirlingam is actually the rump of the bull, which was the form that Lord Siva assumed, when the Pandavas tried to reach him to atone the sins of the Kurukshetra war. Since it was not time designated for humans to worship the Lord here, Lord Siva tried to go away in the form of a bull. It is believed that temple structure that exists till date was actually the one constructed by the Pandavas.

The sannadhi of the Lord is facing South. There are the idols of Kedaragowri, Krishna, Pandavas, Draupadi, Vinayagar, Veerabadrar, Kaarthikeyan, Nandi.. The shrine is covered by snow for 6 months in a year (closed from Oct-Nov upto Apr-May). It is believed that this is the time when the Devas are worshipping the Lord.
There is mountain path called Sorga Vaasal, through which the Pandavas, Sankaracharyar are supposed to have gone through. he river Mandakini flows down from near this area".

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Perhaps it was here or somewhere like it rather than on the shores of the lake that Krishnamacharya stayed with his Guru.

Notice though that the paths are closed six months a year and yet Krishnamacharya was supposed to have travelled back to visit and 'treat' the British Viceroy every three months as per their (visa) agreement. That would make it difficult. Did krishnamacharya stay with his Guru for an uninterrupted seven and a half years or did he travel back and forth avoiding the winter months when travel would have been almost impossible.  

How long did he actually spend with Rama Mohana Brahmacharya an uninterrupted seven and a half years or for a number of months over seven and a half years. Did he visit him perhaps as the Western Ashtangi's visited Mysore in the early days of the old, small shala?


A: Shimla ( summer residence of British Viceroy) B: Lake Manasasarovar  C:  Joshimath (mela parvatham?)
How long did krishnamacharya actually spend with his teacher, just the summer months? he could perhaps have gone in the spring, as soon as the journey became possible come back after three months gone back again for another three months and come back just before winter made the trip impossible. But remember Krishnamacharya was walking, how long would that journey have taken? 

"He continued his journey and reached Manasarovar after twenty two days having trekked 211 miles".

The journey from Shimla ( summer residence of British Viceroy) to Manasarovar took 22 days and then a few more days to travel on to his Guru's cave, although he would surely have taken a more direct route now he knew where his teacher lived, either way, what's that a month round trip?

Notice that Shimla was the Summer residence of the British Viceroy.

So perhaps Krishnamacharya left Shimla for the Mountains after winter as soon as the journey became possible, stayed for a couple of months with his teacher, made the trip back to visit the viceroy again before making another trip to his teacher.

"I've come to the conclusion there are stories and there is practice, I love the stories but I love my practice more".

Perhaps the stories don't matter, perhaps origins don't matter, whatever the stories we still have to fit them to our own experience, are they true... to us, in our practice.

But as stories go......

Here's the full Himalaya section from The King and The Young Man.

The Final Goal

It was surprising to listen as Krishnamacharya recalled these memories of names and places without the slightest hesitation. But how did he master the Yoga Sutra of Patanjali and the Yoga Rahasya of Nathamuni?How is it possible that still today he is a wonderfully expert teacherof Yoga? When asked these questions he answered simply, "For this also Mahamahopadyaya Ganganath Jha has my lasting gratitude."

Ganganath Jha had the title of Yogacharya (Teacher of Yoga). When Krishnamacharya sought his guidance, Jha asked him if he was sure he had a serious inclination to learn Yoga. Krishnamacharya was still hungry and thirsty for more knowledge. He told Ganganath Jha that this indeed was his ambition. It was, after all, his father who had first advised him to master the Yoga Sutra. He recalls today that Ganganath Jha said to him, "If you really want to master Yoga you must travel beyond Nepal for that is where Yogeswarar Rama Mohana Brahmacharya is living. In the Gurkha language there is a book called 'Yoga Gurandam'. In that book you can find practical information such as Yoga practices which give health benefits. If you go to Rama Mohana you can learn the complete meaning of the Yoga Sutra." When he heard this, Krishnamacharya was eager to attain this new goal. He wanted to travel with the speed of thought, but there was to be a delay.

It happened that at that time Lord Irwin was Viceroy. His Headquarterswere in Simla. Ganganath Jha wrote to the Viceroy recommending hist oung friend Krishnamacharya for his proficiency, ambition and knowledge of the Sastras as well as for his personal qualities. He requested the Viceroy's help in obtaining the necessary documents to travel into Tibet. But, as luck would have it, the Viceroy was ill with diabetes. The military doctor, Devendra Bhattacarya, was in charge ofthe case, but could not bring about a complete recovery. This doctor was, as we have seen, the son of Krishnamacharya's teacher at Kasi,Vamadeva Bhattacharya.

One day Krishnamacharya was surprised to be visited by an aide of the Viceroy hand carrying a letter from the Viceroy to him, and requesting him to come to Simla. He stayed in Simla for six months teaching the Viceroy yogic practices. The diabetes was largely controlled. TheViceroy was extremely pleased and developed respect and affection forthe young man. He was happy to make all the necessary arrangements for Krishnamacharya to cross the Himalayas, out of India, across Nepal, and into Tibet. Here is the story of that voyage as retained in Krishnamacharya's memory:

"The Viceroy sent three aides with me. This was some time in 1919. The expense of the journey was covered by the British government. Clothes of leather were made to order to protect us from the cold. On the trail we came across a recluse named Pilmugi living in a cave. We stayed in the cave with him for several days, and then continued on our journey. We reached Manasasarovar and from there went on to Mela Parvatham. We had dharsan of Thirayambaka Narayana and finally reached the dwelling place of Rama Mohana Brahmacharya who was to be my Guru. We had been walking for two and a half months.

"On meeting my Guru I prostrated myself before him. It was evident that Ganganath Jha had written to him about me. He received me with great love and kindness. I noted that even though he was called' Brahmacharya,' he was living with his family. His eldest son, Ramachandra Brahmacharya, is still alive today, about eighty years old. Our food was puri (Indian bread), halwa (a paste of vegetables or fruits with sweetening and ghee) and tea. My period of gurukulam here in Tibet lasted for seven and a half years. Rama Mohana made me memorize the whole of the Yoga Gurandam in the Gurkha language. Thevarious stages of Patanjali's Yoga Sutra are dealt with in that book in a very precise but extensive commentary. That is necessary because Sutras are by definition very concise. In the Yoga Gurandam, the various kinds of Yoga poses and movements are described with great clarity. Only after studying this book can one understand the inner meaning and science of the Yoga Sutra of Patanjali."

After Krishnamacharya's return to Kasi as an outstanding scholar and Yoga expert, the Maharajah of Jaipur called him to serve as principalof the Vidya Sala (Centre for instruction in philosophy and Yoga) in Jaipur. This situation, with its regular schedule of classes and the requirement of being answerable to various people, did not suit the free spirited Krishnamacharya. The Sradha (annual homage) of his father was approaching, so, with this pretext, he returned to Kasi. He enjoyed meeting and holding conversations with the various pandits who had studied with him in Kasi. Impressed by Krishnamacharya's newly mastered techniques, Amarnath Jha, the son of Ganganath Jha, introduced him to various monarchs and he was widely honored.

At this time the Maharajah of Mysore, Krishnaraja Wadiyar, appeared in Kasi to celebrate the Shastiabdapurthi (60th birthday) of his mother. On hearing of Krishnamacharya, he invited him to come to the Palace at Mysore. The Maharajah was greatly impressed by the young man's demeanor, authority and scholarship.
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And what do I think, my own best guess, my version of the story?

How about this

Krishnamacharya was with his guru off and on over a period of seven and a half years. In that time he encountered, was taught or came up with this interpretation of the yoga sutras.

 Yoga Sutra II-47 By making the breath smooth (and long), and by concentration or focussing the mind on the breath, the perfection of the posture is obtained.  Note: Krishnamacharya interprets this sutra differently than other teachers. he gives the correct technical meaning (in this context) fromn prayatna or Jivana prayatna, or effort of life which is breath. he says that it is the breath that should be made smooth and effortless, not the posture. it is not physical. Ramaswami.

I like to think everything else followed from this, the use of breath in the asana, the kumbhaka.... and with such a focus on the breath, continuing that focus in and out of the posture,  the vinyasa method, linking movement to breath....

I dwell on this passage

Rama Mohana made mememorize the whole of the Yoga Gurandam ( Yoga Korunta?) in the Gurkha language. The various stages of Patanjali's Yoga Sutra are dealt with in that book in a very precise but extensive commentary. That is necessary because Sutras are by definition very concise. In the Yoga Gurandam, the various kinds of Yoga poses and movements are described with great clarity. Only after studying this book can one understand the inner meaning and science of the Yoga Sutra of Patanjali."

We know that soon  after Krishnamacharya came back from Tibet he had an impressive asana practice and was giving the kind of Demonstration of 'jumping from one asana to the next' that the young Pattabhi Jois related many years later. We know ourselves how long such a practice takes to develop, it makes sense then that that was the approach to practice that Krishnamacharya was practicing those seven and a half years.

My own best guess is that the focus on the breath is what Krishnamacharya took to be the key to the yoga sutras and what he took away with him from his Seven years in Tibet.

"While practicing yoga with reverence, one can offer their essence to God during exhalation and during inhalation, imagine/suppose that God is entering your heart.  During kumbhaka, we can practice dharana and dhyana.  Such practices will improve mental concentration and strengthen silence/stillness.  Eliminates agitation and restlessness".  Krishnamacharya: Yogasanagalu (1941)

But no doubt you have your own best (better) guess/story.

Some Ashtanga History: Ashtanga in Greece. Kristina Karitinou, Derek Ireland

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Kristina Karitinou posted these few lines on fb Saturday about her first Ashtanga teacher Linda Kapetaniou and the early days of Ashtanga in Greece ( and thus Europe). I asked her if I could post them here and if she had any pictures to go with then, as ever she was more than generous.



"Linda Kapetaniou (left) was the first teacher of Ashtanga Vinyasa Yoga in Greece, Athens(Kifisia). 

She taught the method over 5 years with the help of Periklis Christodoulopoulos at the "Yoga Centre Lotos" back in 1988. 

Both were students of Derek Ireland and Lesley Warell( Randa) founders of the "Practice Place", the first Ashtanga Vinyasa Yoga Centre in Europe. 


The practice place
( More posts to come on Derek Ireland and The practice place)
Derek Ireland adjusting

Hamish hendry and John Scott in Derek Ireland's room

The first Greek student that visited Sri K. Pattabhi Joys in Mysore were Maria -Voula Tsakona. Next were Elleni Kyriakopoulou, Alexandra Dimitrioiu, Maria Papaioanou Lila Petrineli!
  Richard Freeman Michaell Anastassiades, Elleni kyriakopoulou and Kristina Karitinou


Alexandra Dimitriou! 

Most of us were students of Linda's! She gave us the right knowledge and tools to move on and become part of this magic!

The greeks where students of Lindas ( including me ) and all did practice with Guruji! 

Me, I was the first Greek to have Guriji s blessings to teach !After few years Maria Tsakona, Maria Papaioanou as well! 

All of us apart from Maria Papaioanou! All the rest with first Linda, where students of Derek and we where the first team of teachers to build Ashtanga community in Greece! 


Maria Tsakona, Maria Papaioanou, Lila Petrineli,  Kristina Karitinou 
Linda thank you so much for teaching me, for trusting me and for giving me this life!!! the life of a teacher!

And in this life the most important path is the gratitude to the lineage"!



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Kristina Karitinou is a certified Ashtanga yoga teacher, and has been teaching through the tradition of Sri K Pattabhi Jois since 1991.


She was qualified as an Ashtanga Vinyasa Yoga teacher by Derek Ireland and Sri K. Pattabhi Jois in 2002 and became Certified by Manju Pattabhi Jois in 2012. She has practiced intensively with R.Sharath Jois.

She teaches the Primary, Intermediate and Third Sequence and she offers classes, workshops, retreats and teacher trainings all year round in Greece, Europe and Asia. Kristina is happy to host workshops and teacher trainings with Manju Pattabhi Jois in Crete.



Kristina’s work is a continuation of Derek Ireland’s teaching principles. Her work is dedicated to him. http://www.yogapractice.gr


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My earlier post on Derek Ireland 

Tuesday, 14 May 2013

Sunday, 22 April 2012

Wednesday, 13 April 2011

Outside Kristina's Shala in Rethymno, Crete - Manju's TT course 2013

The picture on the door of Derek Ireland is the same as on the cover of the Fusion magazine edition devoted to him.

Read this edition of the magazine free courtesy of Yogamatters
http://www.yogamatters.com/cmscontent/documents/Files/Derek%20Ireland.pdf
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UPDATE

If this post is about lineage and about looking to the past, to Kristina's own teachers and the history of Ashtanga in Greece, I thought it might be nice to look to the present and the future also, this too is lineage.

The present
An excellent video from Alessandro Sigismondi shot on and around Manju's TT course at Kristina's Shala in Rethymno, Crete. 

"A GREAT video about Zen meeting Ashtanga at our recent retreat in Rethymno, Greece. Wanna see the soft, wide world of yoga meet the laser-like technology of Zen? Please share this video! Please share this video! Just another amazing work of art by Alessandro Sigismondi.... " 
Hyon Gak Sunim ( that's him, the monk, chanting in the Video)




The future 
One of the things that struck me most about Manju's workshop held at Kristimna's shala this summer was how many of Kristina's students had returned again and again to take Manju's workshop, there was a sense of family, the help, guidance and quality of assists and adjustments was excellent.

Here's a link to Kristina's own Ashtanga teachers in Greece page many if not most of these teachers taught/trained by Kristina herself.


Backbends - Progress report One month to Chakra Bhandasana challenge plus 108 drop backs.

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Last week I came up with the bright idea of giving myself a one month to Chakra Bhandasana challenge. I kind of forget why, grabbing my heels after dropping back was never something I was particularly interested in, never really got the seeming Mysore obsession and yet, on reflection, I decided there was something to be said for taking the heels in Kapotasana, drawing yourself in to settle on the breath, perhaps there was something similar to be said for Chakra Bhandasana.

And I saw this video from Jen, Peg Mulqueen and Michael Joel Hall.



Peg does this thing where she drops back to blocks as a way or reaching the ankles, was curious about trying that.


But my own drop backs have slipped somewhat, my whole second series actually, where I used to take my ankles in kapo these days I'm just getting the side of my feet but it's coming back.

I won't post a video because the one I took was too far away, I'm half naked and very  very pink. But here's the gist of it in pictures. ( there's a video of the general approach on the original post from last week http://grimmly2007.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/chakra-bhandasana-grab-heels-in-month.html )

I've always tended to take three steps (toe to heel) away from the wall, now I'll do s couple of those then two and a half steps and then just two. I tried one step but it seemed insane...not yet.

The blocks thing doesn't seem to be coming into their own yet, we'll see when I can drop back to the floor one step away from the wall then bring the blocks back and see if there seems any likelihood of reaching for the leg.

It doesn't seem likely, certainly not in just three more weeks but then how many times have I said that about Ashtanga, it constantly surprises you.



here's the picture from last week, not much difference but some.


Why do this?

That came up on fb yesterday. A friend had posted an old video of mine from 2011, of 108 dropbacks. I think I did it on my birthday I think and it was something to do with having come across a video of Iyengar doing the same, more elegantly though and in his 80's too I think.

But really I couldn't remember what the point was, why do we do this kind of thing, the 108 sun salutations, the long stays ( see my old Rishi series posts on 25, 50  breaths in the likes of  kapotasana, in fact most postures from primary and 2nd series. etc).

I was asked....

Quel point?

It's a good question.

My friend Ricky Tran posted Tapasya?

And yes that's it, it's tapas ( Ramaswami referred to most of the On one leg postures as tapas). 

It's Good to have a little tapas every now and again, trick is not to make ones whole practice tapas, perhaps we've all made that mistake at some point, I certainly did.... and for a long time. These days most of my practice is calmer, slower, more chilled, but I'm bringing back a little tapas for seasoning and perhaps a boon.

Below is the 108 dropbacks post from 2011 ( to put the video that's been floating around fb in a little context), my drop backs got better, tidier, the feet stopped turning out eventually, although that's come back a little recently, tiding that up too.

Summer Solstice : 108 dropbacks. UPDATE: Morning after

See this post from last Friday for context When a Blog post comes back to bite you Iyengar 108 dropbacks challenge

from today's comments

Q: Were you generally satisfied with them?

A: I think I feel glad to get the 108 out of the way, to know it could be done now it's more a question of can it be done well ( by me). All these thing, tricky poses, long holds, 108 sury's or drop backs , every time you nail them you see a little more clearly that it's not what it's all about. We know this of course but need a reminder every now and again. 

That said, there's nothing wrong with having some fun and giving yourself a little extra motivation and besides, the Will, like the body, needs exercising too. 

Like you I want to work on the breath more, I think I was happy with a couple of sets of ten got a nice rhythm then lost it, fifteen to twenty is a nice number to play with, perhaps thirty-six. I do want to keep exploring this for a while and yes let's still do it for our birthdays as an incentive. After then I think I'd rather save it for a holy day or somebody elses birthday, certainly not Thursdays. I did 108 sury's when SKPJ died, kind of feel that things like this should be saved for such occasions, perhaps when you need to ask a boon, tapas, no?

Still can't get over Iyengar's feet how close together, straight and solid they were, 108 like that would be something to celebrate. 



Q: Do your knees or ankles ever hurt from having them turned out for so many dropbacks?

A: No feet don't hurt, back feels fine too though a slight crick in the neck. When I started this experiment, what Friday, I was keeping my feet straight, lifting my heels, been using that approach for the last few months, I like it a lot better. Trouble was after twenty or thirty your thighs are like jelly, switched back to having my feet turned out and much easier for large sets, right at the end of this though my legs were quaking a bit. Want those straight, flat, rooted feet of Iyengar



UPDATE : Morning after
Was expecting the worst, a lot of stiffness perhaps but as it happens I'm feeling pretty good. No stiffness in the back, the little crick in the neck has gone and legs don't feel like jelly. Stomach muscles are... not sore exactly but feel as if I've done some serious crunches, a Pilates work-out from those crazy twins perhaps.

Practice this morning was supposed to be built around the Asymmetric series but I ended up doing the seated sequence again for all the forward bends; long paschimottanasana and it's variations interspersed with Tatakamudra ( see this post ). I did the paschi/tatkamudra combo yesterday as a counterpose, perhaps it helped to iron out the dropbacks.

What else, a couple of goes at taking the lotus back up higher in Karandavasana and a look at jumping to Urdhava kukkutasana (post to come on that) then long stays in the inversions and on to pranayama etc.

A nice morning after practice.

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Another update/progress report on One month Chakra Bhandasana challenge - Have I missed the boat?

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I vaguely remembered walking in to touch my heel once but assumed it was in 2011, around the time of my old 108 dropbacks video I posted yesterday, turns out it was 2009.

2009, I couldn't even drop back then, just walked in to touch my heel in Urdhava Dhanurasana, ahhh the flexibility of youth I was only, what 46,  back then.

2009
http://grimmly2007.blogspot.co.uk/2009/11/walking-in-urdhva-dhanurasana-2-grazing.html

Here's the old video


Makes me wonder if perhaps I've....missed the boat. I Don't seem to be anywhere near as flexible as I was back then.

Here's a picture from this morning, again walking in, miles off. What have I been doing for the last four years, see if I'd gone to Mysore.....


Dropping back was better though, this time dropping back from only one and a half steps from the wall.


Missed the boat? Perhaps not.

If I hadn't have cut my ruddy fingernails I would have touched my heel easy.
And here's the video, I always used to start my drop backs three steps from the wall this week it's been two as in the first of these. i the second one though it's one and a half steps, so close I'm having to walk down the wall. Peg, can you send me one of your blue bolsters?


This whole project is based on the idea of, 'What would it be like to be able to grab the heels in Chakra Bhandasana, settle in and just breathe, really breathe, like in kapo. Whether I reach my heels or not dropping back this deep  and spending 25 long slow breaths there would perhaps be interesting enough on it's own.

Projects, Work in progress, Practice videos.... feels like old times.

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Just been sent these to review from Yogamatters.com

Should have the reviews up by Tuesday


Jury is still very much out on the feetup


My first Workshop, December 13th and 14th Yoga Centro Victoria, León Spain.

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It seems I'm now available for Weddings, Bar Mitzvah and Yoga Workshops.....

I've been invited by my friend Óscar  (Óscar Montero, Profesor de Yoga Centro Victoria) to give a workshop, my first, at his home studio/shala in León, Spain. The last couple of weeks we've been sorting out the details but now have the dates, an outline of the program and even a couple of posters, one in Spanish and the other in English.

Getting quite excited about it.



and here's the poster in English...




 The city of León looks amazing too, looking forward to visiting


I found a video on Youtube Yoga Centro Victoria



If anyone is interested in attending contact Oscar details at the bottom of the poster above.

UPDATE.
I was asked in comments below for some more details about the workshop

We're still working out the details but the Friday evening will be perhaps a discussion of Krishnamacharya's approach as found in his books, Looking at Yoga Makaranda and Yogasanagalu pretty much what I've covered in the blog. I'm no expert but have looked at these books quite closely both with Ramaswami and here but more importantly tried to explore them in my practice.

Saturday morning will be a kind of led practice/workshop in the style of Krishnamacharya's first book Yoga makaranda and Yogasanagalu relating to the earlier discussion but exploring through practice ( we did something similar with Ramaswami on his TT course). I'll seek to make it available for any level not so much difficult asana but a strong breath focus, slowing it down, perhaps some longer stays etc.

the second workshop will look at Krishnamacharya's later work as taught by Ramaswami and how I feel it can help us in our Ashtanga practice. Again, appropriate I hope for any level. The asana practice will be shorter to allow time for exploring pranayama and pratyahara as well as a little meditation practice.

That's basically the idea
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