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Chuck Miller Satsang, TOKYO 2014, one hour forty minute talk. plus quotes from his website

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http://www.sama-ashtanga.orghttp://www.sama-ashtanga.org

Yesterday I put up this post

Where are they now? (mostly) Recent Videos/interviews with students from 1993 Sri K. Pattabhi Jois led Yoga Works Ashtanga demonstrations

This was a look at the practitioners in early 80s Led class with Pattabhi Jois and included some relatively recent, decent length, videos of where they may be thought to be now, twenty odd years later and perhaps thirty to forty years after they first encountered Yoga. While hunting out recent videos I came across this extend Satsang with Chuck Miller Video.

One of the reasons I'm drawn to 'senior/longer serving' teachers/practitioners is the question 'What is it to have practiced for twenty, thirty years, even forty years, where may decades of practice take us, how does the relationship to practice change, and shift....


From Chuck Miller's Website Bio.

"In 1974 I found the book Light on Yoga by BKS Iyengar. The Introduction was one of the most profound things I had ever read. I began working through the practices contained in there. they were laid out in weekly routines, with photos in a different part of the book and descriptions for how to do the postures in yet another place! Complicated! 

   The book became my constant companion, I had a special pocket for it in my backpack. It was complicated but I was motivated and after about 3 years I had managed to get to the recommended week 35 or so. I thought that I must be a very slow student! Years later talking to others who tried the same I found that actually I had done pretty well!

    In 1980, intrigued that here was a man who had studied with the same teacher as Iyengar, I met Sri K Pattabhi Jois. When he asked me who my teacher was I replied "book." What book he asked. "Light on Yoga." Oh, you are Iyengar student! So he called me that for the first month as I began practicing Ashtanga Yoga. I continued with him intensively for many years and intermittently until his death.

    In March of 1988 I got permission from Guru-ji  to teach Primary Series and was pushed into the yoga room and began teaching Ashtanga Yoga. I taught in the same school, almost the same time for 17 years. Many of the students came for years and years. It was a great experience for me. I hope it was for them as well! 

After selling the school and moving to Hawaii Island, "The Big Island," I began accepting invitations to teach in other cities around the world and continue to do that today".  
Full Bio here http://www.sama-ashtanga.org/bio--chuck-miller.html



Check out too Chuck's new website.


Notice the 'Info' dropdown menu on the top right. There are pages here on

Ethos
Practice
Chuck Miller/Bio

I hesitate to quote as it's so much better to read it all in context but these pages are buried away a little and I don't want you to miss them as I almost did,

So, some quotes from the above pages

Ethos

ethos:    "A Greek word meaning Character that is used to describe the guide lines that characterize the beliefs of a community , nation or ideology. It is also used to describe the power that music has to influence its hearers' emotions, behaviours and even morals." 

Practice:

Practices are great tools, primarily tools for Observation. They present us with an otherwise difficult to perceive view of ourselves. Who we are and how we relate to the world around us and to each other. They help to alter how we “Sit within Ourselves.” That is what the word “Asana” refers to, our "Seat." 

Practice

Sama
Drishti means the place where the mind goes, as a result of where the eyes go! The place, from the yogic perspective, where the mind is to go is Inwards! Yoga is an introspective practice. We need to go in. We work from the known to the unknown, from the periphery to the center, to uncover the truth of who we are inside and then letting that express itself outwards.

 Vinyasa
"I asked Guru-ji what the word Vinyasa meant in 1982, while he was teaching a 2 month Intensive in Austin, Texas. 
(Photos here above are from that time and place!)


    "Vinyasa is the Breathing System, he answered." 

"...I went upstairs to thank Guru-ji one day after morning practice, maybe it was in 1984:
I had an experience of the continuity of the practice and wanted to share my thoughts with him. I told him that the breathmovements were like beads on a string, like a string of prayer beads, what in India is called a Mala.
He got excited and told me the name of his book was "Yoga Mala." It was as yet only available in very limited supply in his native language, Kannada. He pulled out a handwritten manuscript and let me make a copy. I thought maybe someone could translate it! (Eddy would go! Thanks!)"

Bio

See again the quote at the top of the blog taken from this page.

Ashtanga yoga in 1995 (plus links to posts on 1986 and 1988 YJ Ashtanga articles)

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A look at how Ashtanga was viewed/presented 20 years ago

 Interesting Yoga Journal article by senior editor Anne Cushman on Ashtanga in the 1995 January/February edition of Yoga Journal. This starts off as being about Power Yoga but quickly moves to the roots of power yoga in Ashtanga with input from David Williams, Tim Miller (The Alchemy of Ashtanga), Richard Freeman and on the final page Chuck Miller and Maty Ezraty on 'Changing the series' ( or not). There's also a nice first hand report of visiting Mysore back in '95 by Beverly Fredericks












Link to Yoga journal


If this is your kind of thing then you may like to look at an earlier post


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Also this article from 1986 which has a fuller version of the Yoga Korunta story.

Pattabhi Jois, Krishnamacharya and the Yoga Korunta story, as told in 1986 Yoga Jourmal

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Anyone know of an earlier extended article on Ashtanga?

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This post from earlier in the week may also be of interest

Practicing together

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I've very much enjoyed visiting a Shala for the last couple of weeks.

It's actually a remarkable place, the teacher who had been there for a while decided to open another Mysore program elsewhere in town, some of the Ashtangis where able to follow but it was inconvenient for others and there also seems to have been a loyalty to the place itself where they had been practicing for a number of years with stewardship passing through several teachers.... and so they just hold the room and carry on regardless.

There is a wonderful spirit at the shala, sincere, committed and disciplined with or without a teacher, everyone just getting on with practice.

It felt almost like practicing at home.

It must have been like this in the old days when the early Ashtangis would get together and practice, with or without one of them taking the role of teacher and showing newcomers the ropes, perhaps after coming back from Mysore themselves, one of Pattabhi Jois' US visits or after having spent time with one who had practiced perhaps longer (although not necessarily) than themselves.

And then they would head back perhaps to wherever they came from and start sharing the practice, not so much teaching as passing along in turn, in one medium or other, parampara.

Authorising practice came later of course.

A teacherless shala strikes me as still very much of this tradition and lineage.

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Monsoon

Monday I got up with a dodgy stomach and decided to practice at home M. ended up joining me, laying her mat beside mine. She had to run off to work but I had a long  practice, taking my asana nice and slow.... longer stays, kumbhaka the odd variation and savouring finishing. After asana, pranayama, pratyahara and a sit, practicing at home does give you more time for actual practice,

Home practice will always be my preference, I'd rather spend the time traveling to and from a shala on the mat and cushion but I'm staring to understand shala practice a little more and more with each one I visit.

The June monsoon seems to have come, I'm about to roll out my mat for practice a little in awe of those I know who have already headed off to the shala in the rain.


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see also


Just Practice

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This is perhaps my second favourite video by Alessandro ( my favourite is HERE), thank you to Lu for the heads up.

Stunning stunning practice here....

Now I still believe that half Primary can be just as 'Advanced' as the asana we see here ( half primary/half second more than enough surely) but this brings back memories and makes me all wistful...

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'I Started yoga at aged 38, seven years ago.... I had health issues.... no physical background.'

'I practiced in the beginning with the help of teachers for three or four years then I practiced mostly by myself'.

'I don't teach, I have no aspirations to become a teacher, I just practice'.

"It's really the energy and when you connect, it gives you the ability to do these things that you do in the practice.... It's not really the physical... the body in many ways just accommodates the needs of your breath...."

"Ashtanga for me, it's the practice of Love.... and there are many ways that you can practice love and this is just one of them".

Alexandros filmed by Alessandro Sigismondi at Ashtanga Yoga Kifisia, Athens. 


"46. What does the bhakti mean to a person who has no belief in Isvara?

Love is bhakti for them" T. Krishnamacharya


The Rewards of Asana, Quietude - Al-Biruni's Arabic version of Patanjali's Yoga Sutras

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Abū Rayḥān al-Bīrūnī

Al-Biruni's Arabic version of Patanjali's Yoga Sutras is quite wonderful, it has a Q and A format. Here is what he has to say about the third Limb, mostly focussing on the rewards.

“The third quality is quietude. For whoever aspires to (obtain) a thing seeks it, and seeking is motion, and with motion (stirred) by desire comes the cessation of ease. Hence when he renounces all things singly and generally, and does not attach his attention to any of them, he is truly at rest, he is rewarded by not being harmed by heat or cold, by not suffering pain from hunger and thirst, and by not feeling any need; accordingly he is at peace”. Al-Biruni’s Arabic version of Patanjali’s Yoga Sutras


*See the pages at the end of the post to see how this is put in the context of the other limbs.



Al-Biruni is referencing the three asana sutras here ( YS below from Swamiji.com)

2.46 The posture (asana) for Yoga meditation should be steady, stable, and motionless, as well as comfortable, and this is the third of the eight rungs of Yoga.
(sthira sukham asanam)

2.47 The means of perfecting the posture is that of relaxing or loosening of effort, and allowing attention to merge with endlessness, or the infinite.
(prayatna shaithilya ananta samapattibhyam)

2.48 From the attainment of that perfected posture, there arises an unassailable, unimpeded freedom from suffering due to the pairs of opposites (such as heat and cold, good and bad, or pain and pleasure).
(tatah dvandva anabhighata)

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Ties in nicely with a post I put up a while back about the asana limb being tapas, preparation for yoga rather than Yoga itself,aimed at reducing our attachments to the world and thus giving a chance for 'yoga' to take place.....quietude.

See earlier post In defence of Asnana

Also echoes perhaps some of those arguments against grasping for new postures, not much quietude in that. While I don't think one should be held back unnecessarily which can actually lead to grasping ( and Krishnamacharya originally had Marichi D in the intermediate group of asana) I do tend to feel (nowadays anyway) that half Primary is more than enough practice ( you have your backbend pratkriya after ever asana in upward facing dog); explore that with long, slow breathing and we have as advanced a practice as anything in the later series.
NB: personally I've been happy to cut back to practicing up to half 2nd generally split over three days so I can practice nice and slow and have time for my pranayama and a sit.

I remember being struck early on how when asana practice becomes the highlight of our day and costs us nothing everything else drops away somewhat. What else do we really want or need other than time for practice, that time on the mat..... and later when we discover pranayama and 'just sitting' it becomes sufficient.

How joyfully then do we look forward to the end of our householder duties and being able to retire to our (metaphorical) forrest and devote ourselves to practice....

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Abū Rayḥān al-Bīrūnī was in the great tradition of Islamic scholars, intellectuals, poets and enquirers without which we wouldn't have the culture we so often take for granted. We remember the Greeks but so often forget the gifts that came down to us from the Islamic golden age.

Scholars at an Abbasid library. Maqamat of al-Hariri
Illustration by Yahyá al-Wasiti, Baghdad 1237

Wikipedia Intro to Al-Biruni
Al-Biruni is regarded as one of the greatest scholars of the medieval Islamic era and was well versed in physics, mathematics, astronomy, and natural sciences, and also distinguished himself as a historian, chronologist and linguist.[6] He was conversant in Khwarezmian, Persian, Arabic, Sanskrit, and also knew Greek, Hebrew and Syriac. He spent a large part of his life in Ghazni in modern-day Afghanistan, capital of the Ghaznavid dynasty which was based in what is now central-eastern Afghanistan. In 1017 he traveled to the Indian subcontinent and authored “Tarikh Al-Hind” (History of India) after exploring the Hindu faith practised in India. He is given the titles the "founder of Indology". He was an impartial writer on custom and creeds of various nations, and was given the title al-Ustadh ("The Master") for his remarkable description of early 11th-century India.[6] He also made contributions to Earth sciences, and is regarded as the "father of geodesy" for his important contributions to that field, along with his significant contributions to geography.


Al-Biruni on the limbs of Ashtanga

http://www.jstor.org/stable/616500?&seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

http://www.jstor.org/stable/616500?&seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents


Notes to the above
http://www.jstor.org/stable/616500?&seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Al-Biruni was brought to my attention through this excellent edition of the Yoga Sutras by  Edwin F. Bryant  that I've recently got my hands on, it includes insights from several of the great, traditional commentators 






Somebody asked me on FB if I knew Bryant's version. I'd seen it but hadn't looked closely, bought it straight away, wonderful resource. I forget who asked me now but thank you for the heads up.

(Your practice is ) "...like watching paint dry" - OR 'A relaxed and reposed attitude to practice'. Also, recent Ashtanga Parampara interviews

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M. was practicing with me yesterday, she was in her fifth Sury down dog and suddenly burst out laughing, I was still in samastithi and she said my practice was like "watching paint dry".


I just mentioned the above to a friend, expecting her support but all she had  to say was.....

"LOL, ya, reminds me of that clip of you and Oscar,  I was just mainly watching Oscar...... you're like part of the wall/furniture".

This was a Video following my first workshop in Leon, my friend Oscar , he's practicing a speedy Vinyasa Krama, my slightly more sedate Krishnamacharya Primary on the right ( I wish we had asked one of Oscar's Ashtanga students to practice along side us), kicks off a bit six minutes in but don't know anybody who's watched it that long.


Unfortunately (or fortunately) there was a problem with the camera and we only have this twenty minutes of the practice from the middle, would love to do a complete Half Krishnamacharya Primary video someday.

"...You're like part of the wall/furniture".

Nicest thing anyone has ever said about my practice.

I remember Richard Freeman saying on his intensive workshop that I attended in London a few years back, that his dream was to have the slowest Primary series ever, I challenge you to a practice off Richard..... I have this image of us both in old style tracksuits waving our arms up and down doing callisthenics, pacing back and forth, jumping up and down then taking off the tracksuits and standing in samastithi for half an hour, looking at each other out the corner of our eye.

Or maybe something like the opening of the Philosopher's football match (shameless link to the Woman's World cup on at the moment).



Perhaps Chuck Miller is up for it too,  I heard he taught a week workshop/intensive and the first three days were on samstithi, my kind of guy, looking forward to him coming to Osaka this Autumn.

I regret the Banksy, it might be boring to watch but this approach to practice doesn't feel in the least bit dull, looking at the video above I'm wondering what my rush was.

In my sitting recently I've been giving my practice a  Chan meditation tweak referred to as Silent Illumination intended as another name for shamata - vipashyana. I'm finding it a remarkable practice. It's related to the Japanese zen practice of Shikantaza that Dogen focussed on with his Soto sect of Zen.

Zen  is 'Chan' in Chinese and supposedly derives from the  Sanskrit Dhyana

Master Sheng Yen explains the meaning of the term in this way:

This “just sitting” in Chinese is zhiguan dazuo. Literally, this means “just mind sitting.” Some of you are familiar with the Japanese transliteration, shikantaza. It has the flavour of “Just mind your own business.” What business? The business of minding yourself just sitting. At least, you should be clear that you're sitting. “Mind yourself just sitting” entails knowing that your body is sitting there. This does not mean minding a particular part of your body or getting involved in a particular sensation. Instead, your whole body, your whole being is sitting there


Notice the

"This does not mean minding a particular part of your body or getting involved in a particular sensation. Instead, your whole body, your whole being is sitting there".

We often have that tendency to get wrapped up in the mechanics of practice, nothing wrong with that occasionally but maybe not all the time, do the exploration in a second evening 'workshop' approach to practice perhaps or just pick one or two asana each practice session to focus on, the rest of the time just practice.

I've tended to focus on the breath in my practice, slowing and refining it but following this approach I've started to allow it to take care of itself a little more and taken the 'just minding yourself sitting' approach into my asana practice, 'just mind yourself standing' in Samastithi, just mind yourself in kapotasana or paschimottanasana or janu sirsasana......

See the extended section in bold from this retreat talk found in the excellent Method of no Method by Chan master Sheng Yen



Extract :
Sillent Illumination practice extract from method of no method
Evening Talk: Approach to Silent Illumination

SILENT ILLUMINATION is another name for shamata - vipashyana, the meditative practice of stilling the mind and developing insight into its true nature. This practice originated in Indian Buddhism as early as the time of Shakyamuni Buddha. Traditionally, shamata¬vipashyana was practiced sequentially. A practitioner progressed from shamata (stilling the mind) to vipashyana (insight, or illumination). The first stage was to practice shamata to achieve sarnadhi and then to practice vipashyana to achieve levels of insight. By contrast, in Chan Buddhism, which emphasizes the sudden approach to real¬ization, shamata and vipashyana are practiced simultaneously.

RELAXING MIND AND BODY

To enter the practice you need to do just two things: relax your body and relax your mind. First, make sure that all parts of your body are completely relaxed and at ease. Next, relax your attitude and your mood; make sure that your mental attitude, the tone of your approach, and your mood are also at ease. This relaxation is the foundation for success in practicing Silent Illumination. Now I would like all of you to try to relax your body and mind. I will guide you as we relax parts of our body together.
Begin with a comfortable sitting posture. Let's start with your head. Please make sure that each part of this region is relaxed. Relax your face; now relax your eyes. Are they relaxed? Proceed downward to relax your cheeks, down to your neck and your shoulders. Are they relaxed? Continue down your arms and then the hands. Make sure that they are relaxed. Follow with the chest, and now the back, which should be upright yet relaxed. Please make sure that the muscles of your abdomen are relaxed; this is very important.

Once these exercises are completed, there should be three points making contact with your cushion and mat- your buttocks and your two knees. Only these three points should feel your weight and ground you to the floor as your whole body relaxes from head to toe. The rest of your body should also be completely relaxed.

After doing these exercises, if you still feel that you are not sufficiently relaxed, please do it again by yourself. From the top, relax part by part, all the way down to your feet. Mentally sweep down your body, part by part, and relax each region; do this as often as you need in order to feel relaxed.

ENTERING THE PRACTICE OF SILENT ILLUMINATION

Once you have relaxed your body, notice that your bodily weight has settled downward. Proceed to simply being aware of yourself sitting there and put your total awareness on your body sitting there. If you are relaxed and you have focused your awareness on yourself just sitting there, you have already entered the practice of Silent Illumination! However, this is just the beginning.

If you cannot relax your eyes by maintaining them slightly open, you may close them. If you keep your eyes open, do not look at anything; just keep them slightly open, gazing down at about a 45-degree angle. If your eyes are tense, your head region will become tense; if your eyes are relaxed, you will find that your head region is also relaxed.

If you have wandering or discursive thoughts, you may open your eyes slightly. If you find yourself becoming drowsy, it is a sign that you are not relaxed. If you are completely relaxed and are aware of your body just sitting there, then you won't be drowsy. Drowsiness results when you are not using your method properly, either not being relaxed or not putting your mind on just sitting. It may be you have already given up on your method. Or you may be sitting but not practicing, just resting. This form of resting while sitting may lead to laziness and idleness.

JUST SITTING

If you are clear that you are relaxed or prompting yourself to relax, that itself is a method. This process will expand into becoming clear and aware that you are just sitting there. This is not merely check¬ing the parts of your body; it is also awareness through sensing the presence of your body sitting there. This is the meaning of "just sit¬ting." In just sitting, you keep your awareness on the total sensation of your body sitting there. Stay with the totality of that awareness; do not become caught up in any particulars. Being aware of the particulars of the body is practicing mindfulness, but we are not practicing mindfulness; we are practicing Silent Illumination. Remember also that you are not practicing mindfulness of breath. Breath is certainly a sensation, but it is merely a part of your total body sensation. You are practicing being aware of the whole body just sitting there with all its different sensations as a totality. Do not become caught up in these various sensations. Just maintain the totality of the sensations of your body just sitting. It is impossible to be aware of every part of the body sitting there. Just be aware of those parts that impinge on your senses. You do not need to be aware of the parts of the body that you cannot sense, such as internal organs. Just take the parts of the body as a whole. The key is to constantly maintain this knowing and awareness of the totality of your body.

For the first two days of the retreat, it will be natural if most of your bodily awareness is discomfort, but do not add any thoughts, feelings, or attitudes on top of that. There may be particular parts of the body experiencing pain or even pleasure, but do not localize or focus on those parts. Keep them in the context of the whole body sitting there. Just acknowledge that there is pain or comfort at this moment, and maintain a simple knowing and recognition of that in your total-body sensation. Tension in certain areas of the body can cause the whole body to become unsettled or agitated. If this happens, please return to the relaxation method. Just mentally sweep your body part by part until you are relaxed, at ease, and stable. When you have done this,

EXTENDING PRACTICE TO LIFE HABITS

You can also integrate these principles into all your activities. Just as when you sit in meditation you just sit, when you sleep, be aware of the totality of your whole being going to sleep. When walking, you just walk. When you eat, you are right there just eating. Plunge your whole life into what you are doing at that very moment and live that way. So we train ourselves to engage our whole being in what we are doing. Whether sitting or eating, you are not engaged in discursive, wandering, or deluded thoughts. All of you-environment, body, and mind-is right there. Whatever you do, whatever the task at hand, your whole life is there at that moment.

Some people may interpret plunging your whole being into the practice or into the task at hand as a very tense approach. This is incorrect. By putting your whole being into whatever you are doing, you are also being relieved from doing anything else at that mo¬ment. Therefore, when you are doing that one thing, that is all you have to care about, and you can do it in a very relaxed manner and attitude. In this light, you will better understand the meaning of engaging your whole being in the present task.

This is the relaxed and reposed attitude to practice.


Ashtanga Parampara.
a couple of new interviews on Lu's Ashtanga Parampara platform

I've mentioned in the past how I tend to cut myAshtanga series  in two, sometimes even in three so as to give myself time to practice more slowly and include pranayama and a sit. Ramaswami quoting Krishnamacharya says that pranayama should be twice as long as out asana practice and our meditation practice twice as long as our pranayama.

Mark Robberds mentions he tends to do the same, splitting a series into two or three especially when traveling for workshops or when the surf's up.

"What is your practice now, Mark? Would you please describe your practice week. Why do you think students need to continue learning additional asanas? What is the purpose of advanced postures?"

Mark: "Today my practice was Primary and tomorrow it will be too. I fit my practice into whatever is happening in my life. I travel so much and when I’m teaching workshops it can be up to seven hours a day. During my last trip to Mysore in January and February of this year I was doing all of Advanced A and the first twenty postures of Advanced B. It was really intense. But it’s not something that I can, or even want to maintain while I’m teaching and traveling, and often I’m also surfing everyday, and so it’s just too much for me to fit it all in.

I’ve been experimenting over the last few years with the best way to make my practice really work for my life. Nowadays, my practice is something like this; I sit for about 10-15 minutes (I guess you’d call that a mindfulness, or a meditation practice), then I do 5-10 minutes of pranayama (simple rhythms like nadi shodhana or samavritti), then I’ll do a few of what I call the “everyday essentials” - hip and shoulder openers. Then I’ll go through the series that I’m working on for the day. If I have time then I do the whole series - one day 2nd, then 3rd, then 4th and back to Primary. But, often I don’t have enough time, so what I like to do now is divide each series. So I might do half Primary one day and the second half the next. Then half Intermediate the next day and the next half the day after and so on. Sometimes I’ll even divide it into thirds. So then it can take me two weeks to rotate my way through my entire four series of practice. This really works well for me. But this is fluid...not at all a hard and fast rule - and I wouldn’t recommend it for everyone because every individual has to find their own way....."
http://www.ashtangaparampara.org/mark-robberds.html


I particularly enjoyed the previous interview with Paul Gold


"What are a few key points that you know now, as a long term practitioner, compared to after 2-3 years of practice?"

"One of the key points, having practiced for close to twenty years, is that I’ve had the opportunity to directly experience a lot of things on my mat. When I was just starting practice or, even after 2-3 years, I had to rely on the experience of others to answer many of my questions and to address my concerns.

There’s a level of confidence that develops after many years. I like to call it “seasoning”. It is the result of practicing day after day, month after month, year after year. It cannot be faked, reached by any shortcut or purchased at any teacher training, intensive or immersion.

Now when I experience difficulties on my mat, I can draw on past experience to help me whether it’s pain, injury (luckily, I’ve only very few in all this time), the challenge of figuring out a new asana, or managing the fatigue and boredom that can periodically arise from continuous practice over a long time. The honeymoon phase of practice doesn't last for too long. So, my past experience saves me a lot of mental and emotional energy.

When I was a less experienced practitioner, I worried a lot about the sensations I was feeling. I had no idea whether the intensity was normal or ok. It was a pretty big preoccupation. I was really afraid that I was going to screw up my knees. Now, I am much more comfortable with the sensations I experience. I don't worry when I feel more intense sensations.

As another example, when I was a new practitioner, there were many asanas that I was convinced I would never be able to do. Binding in marichyasana d is a perfect case in point. For me, when it finally happened, I experienced something that had once been impossible become possible and then even comfortable. It blew my mind. Since that time, whenever I have difficulty in another asana, I draw on the experience of all the asanas that I can now do that once seemed impossible. It's a long list that includes kapotasna, karandavasna, eka pada bakasana a, viranchyasana b and viparitta shalabasana.

Where fatigue and boredom are concerned, there have been times on a Friday after practice that the thought of getting back on my mat Sunday morning made me want to scream. Now, in the past, I've skipped practice to sleep in or to go eat brunch. On the days that I skipped, however, I almost always regretted it because practice held the possibility of breakthroughs and self-discovery. There was an element of adventure with practice. I didn't know what would happen when I got on my mat whereas I knew exactly what sleeping in or eating brunch was all about.  When I didn't practice, there would be no breakthroughs, no self-discovery and no blowing my mind. When I thought I was too tired or sore to practice, I would take a hot shower, get on my mat and tell myself to just breathe and do what I could with no pressure to perform. So many times I surprised myself by what I was able to do. Over time, with seasoning, I was able to internalize that practicing made me feel way better than not practicing which gave me the motivation to get on my mat.

If I had any advice to give to people just starting practice or who’ve been practicing a short time, it’d be the following:

1. Focus on your own practice, don't be concerned about what others are doing and measure your progress from where you’ve started not from some preconceived idea of where you feel you ought to be.

2. Stay aware of how yoga practice is affecting other areas of your life off the mat such as your sleep, temperament, digestion, and courage. There are so many ways that practice benefits us if we pay attention.

3. Find a reason to practice and to keep getting on your mat (see item 2 above) that is outside of progress in yoga asanas. This will enable you to persevere when things get tough and/or frustrating".


Sequences. Vinyasa Krama and Ashtanga

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I received this question and have been wanting to discuss the question of sequences in Vinyasa Krama and Ashtanga for some time.




Question: When did Krishnamacaharya start teaching the Vinyasa Krama system? He must have been teaching this method before he started teaching Ramaswami  but is there anybody else who mentions this metholodgy?

I wonder when he created the sub-routines and sequences as in the books (Yoga Makaranda/ Yogasanagalu) these don't exist...

I tried to search your blog, if you have written on this before (evolution of teachings of Krishnamacharya etc.) it would be great if you could send the link. 

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I do go into origins in some detail on this post from a couple of years back ( I should update it), it's mostly Ashtanga but mentions Vinyasa Krama near the end.

Did Krishnamacharya teach Ashtanga
http://grimmly2007.blogspot.jp/2013/04/did-krishnamacharya-teach-ashtanga.html

Something I've tried to stress in a number of posts in the last couple of years ( although there is no one post that spells it out) is that Krishnamacharya seemed to be teaching both, what we think of now as Ashtanga Vinyasa and Vinyasa krama, at the same time.

There was not a switch from one approach to another, no early and late Krishnamacharya although in working one-to-one almost exclusively in later years he had the opportunity to focus more on the therapy aspect (therapeutic benefits are also included for each asana in Yoga Makaranda pub.1934) .

There seems to have been the large class with the boys of the Mysore palace, a more flexible Ashtanga vinyasa than we see in Pattabhi Jois, Krishnamacharya not feeling tied it seems to a fixed series but rather, looser groups od asana that no doubt had a similar overall structure to modern Ashtanga vinyasa as we can see from his Yogasanagalu (1941) table.

But he was also, it appears,  teaching in a side room ( often with Pattabhi Jois and other senior students taking the Led class) and here he was no doubt teaching along the lines of Vinyasa Krama that we see in Ramaswami' teaching.

Krishnamacharya's private students in the Mysore years were mostly older perhaps and he was probably including less if any jump backs and jump throughs. He would no doubt have taught slower movements than with the restless young boys, longer breaths, kumbhaka perhaps (all these elements are there in his 1934 Yoga Makaranda).

We can see from the Yogasanagalu table that many asana are linked to each other, one a more challenging variation of another, and we know that Krishnamacharya was adding in and around the key asana many other postures to help lead up to and away from the key asana (Jois refers to Krishnamacharya's "mountain of asana") manju Jois Interestingly refers to his father Pattabhi Jois occasionally doing the same.

Many of the shoulderstand and headstand movements in Ramaswami's book are seen in the old Black and White Mysore Video from 1938.

So it was all there in Mysore in the 1930s, Ashtanga and Vinyasa Krama.

Krishnamacharya seems to have later taught the small room approach to Ramaswami in their private lessons but, as Ramaswami mentions in his writing,  it was only when Ramaswami started teaching the flexible girls of the dance school and asked for more asana that Krishnamacharya started bringing out everything, more and more asana, and highlighting how the asana were related to eachother, at some point he seems to have suggested to Ramaswami that he document and list all the asana in the different families as a pedagogic aid to teaching.



Ramaswami has stressed in his newsletters that the Vinyasa Krama sequences found in his book aren't how we practice daily. We learn the sequences to see how the asana relate to each other and highlight the wide range of asana possibilities. In our daily practice we would choose asana from those sequences sometimes in large groups or subroutines but also individual asana.

See Ramaswami's How to practice Vinyasa Krama Newsletter Sept. 2009

We actually see one form of this in the Ashtanga sequence, I've showed at the back my Vinyasa Yoga Practice Book how the Ashtanga vinyasa series are made up of smaller sub-groups, often pretty much just as we find them in Ramaswami.

I currently tend to practice Ashtanga Second series which is a triangle subroutine, an On-one-leg subroutine, routines from the Bow sequence, some more advanced Asymmetric postures, arm balances (found at the back of Ramaswami's book) and Inversions followed by a supine Shoulderstand routine and Lotus subroutine at the end.

On alternate days I practice Ashtanga Primary, the same Triangle subroutine, an On-one-leg subroutine then Seated, a long Asymmetric sequence, more Seated subroutines then the Supine shoulderstand rountine and inversions leading into the final lotus subroutine at the end.

I usually cut out some asana from the current Ashtanga series because I like to breathe more slowly and employ kumbhaka, occasionally I'll add in more prep asana from Vinyasa Krama if I'm stiff or perhaps more advanced postures if I'm feeling particularly flexible.

In most asana I take only three long slow breaths rather than five short ones allowing time for longer stays in certain key asana that Ramaswami highlights.

So for me an Ashtanga Vinyasa with more of a Krishnamacharya's approach to breathingis Vinyasa Krama and perfectly consistent. Perhaps this explains how Krishnamacharya was able to teach both approaches at the same time.

Health benefits were already there in Yoga Makaranda but in later years teaching one to one Krishnamacharya was able to focus on the therapy side in line with his Ayurveda background.



It's not about the sequences

Part of the misunderstanding may come with the fixation on sequences. Krishnamacharya seems to have had a general structure to his asana classes, we can see this in the yogasanagalu table. For a specific purpose ( a four year college syllabus) Pattabhi Jois had to turn Krishnamacharya's loose, flexible groups of asana into fixed series mostly following the outline we see in Krishnamacharya's Yogasanagalu. But Ramaswami too was asked to lay out, for teaching purpose rather than for general practice, the asana into their respective families, placing all the On-one-leg asana, the Triangle postures, Bow, Seated, Asymmetric, Inversions etc. and to show in each of those families how the easier asana would lead to those that were more challenging.  Because these asana lead from the simple to the advanced within the subgroups that make up the different families it's possible to practice them as a sequence. Ramaswami recommends we do so to learn the relationship between the asana, how they can prepare one for/or progress from one asana to another but this is NOT how we are expected to structure our daily practice.

There seems then to be a misunderstanding regarding Vinyasa Krama that I've been wanting to address for some time.  The misunderstanding seems to be that Vinyasa Krama is all about sequences, a number of sequences in fact and to learn Vinyasa Krama is to learn the sequences.

I was guilty of the same misunderstanding. When I first came across Ramaswami's book The Complete book of Vinyasa Yoga I too became hung up on the sequences, I went so far as to hunt out a teacher in the UK and asked him to teach them to me especially those that were a bit of struggle to practice from a book E.G. Inversion sequence.

Ramaswami has made it very clear in his How to practice Vinyasa Krama newsletter that the sequences in his book are a pedagogic tools for learning how different asana relate to each other, how most asana can be seen as either preparation for another asana or perhaps an extension of a preceding asana.

Ramaswami is very clear that we would not practice these sequences in our daily practice but would rather construct an appropriate practice, suitable to our needs of the day, that would consist of certain key asana and as well as other asana some of which may form related groups. Ramaswami did recommend revisiting the tool box of subroutines and sequences he laid out in his book regularly though, to stay familiar with how the asana may relate to each other.

There is benefit then in learning the sequences Ramaswami lays out but only in the sense that learning them may better inform our selection of asana to practice

My personal approach to practice is to broadly follow the Ashtanga sequences ( these days mostly Primary and Intermediate) with which I first began asana practice eight years ago, this gives me an overall shape to my practice that I'm comfortable with. I would then adapt those basic series to what feels appropriate that day. I may add an extra couple of asana acting as preparation for an asana in the series or even as a replacement, I might also add an extension if I'm feeling particularly flexible. More often than not I will practice only half an ashtanga sequence to allow for the slower breathing and occasional longer stays.



Vinyasa Krama is more about the approach to the asana than the order in which the asana are presented. I would argue the same goes for Ashtanga.

Krishnamacharya presented groups of asana, Primary, Middle and Proficient rather than fixed series. the series seems to have come about when Pattabhi Jois, Krishnamacharya's student was asked to present a four year syllabus resulting in four series, Primary for the first year, Intermediate for the second year, Advanced A for the third year and Advanced B for the final year. Advanced A and B were later divided into four shorter series, 4th to 6th. Had Pattabhi Jois been asked to teach in an alternate pedagogic situation in 1941 we may never have ended up with fixed sequences in Ashtanga.


The video below is a full 50 minute version of the On your feet /tadasana sequence pretty much (but not exactly) as it's found in Ramaswami's Vinyasa Yoga book. It's a perfect example of how the sequence shows the options and possibilities available. In our daily practice it's unlikely that we would include the full sequence, with all its variations. I ten to practice a ten minute version that will change daily, I might include more of the back stretch variations if I'm going to practice  more advanced backbends later in my practice. I would most likely include one of the twisting variations one day, a different variation the next. The kumbhak and uddiyana kriya are also clearly options. A the beginning of my practice i might include more of the options for working into a posture, going in a little deeper each time to the uttanasana perhaps but after becoming warmed up I might employ less working in options and go straight into the posture, likewise with repeating postures and/or longer stays.



I still prefer Ramaswami's first book Yoga for the Three Stages of Life, one of the best introductions and continuing study bookst on Yoga practice I've seen, Ramaswami's Complete book of Vinyasa yoga, My own practice book and the Harmony Yoga sequence book while useful tools perhaps give a skewed view of the practice leading us to think it's all about fixed sequences rather than taking a flexible approach to our daily practice.


And how one might actually practice tadasana


 

Workshop Review: 70 hour sloka by sloka, Bhagavad Gita... as taught by Srivatsa Ramaswami (Guest post)

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Thank you to my friends Chiara and Oscar for agreeing to share their thoughts on Ramaswami's recent (almost two week sloka by sloka Bhagavad Gita Intensive with Srivatsa Ramaswami.

Ramaswami will be teaching another (shorter) 25 hour  intensive on the Gita in Santa Monica July/August



from Chiara Ghiron. Siena, Italy
http://www.theyogicat.com/theyogicat/Home.html


I studied with Srivatsa Ramaswami last year, attended the Core Vinyasa Krama week in London followed by a weekend on the subject of building a personal practice. I loved him, the way he explained the matter interspersed by small stories and his way of conveying an incredible amount of information in such a simple and understandable way.
So as soon as I heard of the Bhagavad Gita course organised by Steve Brandon at Harmony Yoga in Wells, I booked my place there.

It was going to be a real marathon, 13 days non stop, no āsana practice, no prānāyāma, nothing else but the full Bhagavad Gita śloka by śloka.
I wanted to attend mainly to be able to study more with Ramaswami and also because I was hoping he would make all possible connections with the Yoga Sutra and with Samkhya, since I had missed the opportunity to study these two texts with him the previous years.

I had read the Bhagavad Gita before, as it was a required text for my initial teacher training. We had to read a very simple and poetic version, the one by Stephen Mitchell, which was for me a real discovery. Ramaswami recommended the Annie Besant version for the course, which can be downloaded free from the internet.

The basic story of this old text (400-300 BCE?) is the dilemma the prince-warrior Arjuna finds himself in, having to face the battle against his cousins and teachers to reconquer the kingdom which has been unjustly taken through deceit.
His charioteer reveals himself to be Krśna and he leads the reluctant Arjuna through the many reasons why he should fight the just war.
At the end of 18 chapters, having heard argumentation's based on Karma Yoga, Bhakti Yoga and Jñana Yoga, having seen the immense power of Krśna in an almost Bollywoodian parade of lives and deaths, Arjuna is finally convinced that he should fight.
While following Krśna patiently persuading Arjuna, we learn something about the underlying Samkhya philosophy, particularly how the qualities of matter influence our behaviours. We are explained that each should keep a behaviour in line to one's own inclination and law, and how Yoga practice can support us throughout our lives.

The course was not packed but I must say that there was a good number of people, 13 attendants for the full course length and a few additional ones for the initial weekend. People came especially from Brazil, the USA, Italy, Spain, plus of course from the UK. 'Foreigners' made up almost half of the participants. I must admit I was a bit perplexed at not seeing more people from the UK for such an important and unique event, but there you go.

Ramaswami kept a very tight schedule, 5 and a half hours a day, a couple of short breaks in the morning and the afternoon and a long-ish lunch break.

Every morning I had to re-tune my brain to sentences which were half Sanskrit and half English, but after 10 minutes words were starting to flow fluidly and were easy to follow. Ramaswami used a Bhagavad Gita text with just the Sanskrit ślokas and a transliteration, translating and commenting all along.
He first sang each śloka then translated it, then commented it.
I had the recently published translation by Georg and Brenda Feuerstein with me, which has a word-by-word translation at the end. It proved very useful in saving me from taking too many notes on the translation, allowing to focus on Ramaswami's comments.

I felt that the Vedantic influence of Ramaswami's background showed quite strongly in his reading, although he was very open to other interpretations and actually also recommended other commentaries, including Ramanuja's.
But he said that 'the best commentary of the Gita is the Gita itself' and I also appreciated the exhortation to always read a text with an open mind.
First read, try to see what the author has to say, do not let your preconceived ideas veil the original text.
Then, at a second reading, perhaps bring in your experience, your ideas.
This was very important advice for me, given the bad habit I have of already interpreting, forming an opinion, often before even completing the reading.

One aspect which Ramaswami stressed over and over, was that there is a time for everything.
We should prepare our passage towards a more introverted and speculative life after we have completed our duties.
We should restrain from always starting new things, otherwise we'll find we never have time to stop and contemplate and prepare for our last days.
And given that our preponderant samskaras are the ones which will inevitably reappear at the time of death, better starting to work on them as soon as possible!

Ramaswami was incredibly accurate and very very good at timing the lectures. He always left enough time for discussion when time was needed and reined us in when we had to move faster on areas which had been covered already with different words. We finished right at the end of the last day, but we had some time to ask a few more questions.

Overall, it was an excellent course, very intense and it will take months before we can go through the whole text again and find the jewels which are hidden in the myriad of notes we all took.
It was never boring, and I could not believe how fast almost two weeks went by.
You may or may not resonate with the concept of a One and Only Underlying Reality, but the life-coaching that Krśna gives is invaluable, whichever your approach is to what is beyond this body.

It was an unforgettable experience and I think that whoever has the opportunity to study with him on the more theoretical aspects of Yoga should take it.



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from Oscar Montero. Leon, Spain
https://yogaleon.wordpress.com/blog/


The Bhagavad Gita is a very easy way to explain the philosophy, for this reason it became a popular text. All the text tries to dissolve avydia in order to understand the consciousness. They don't talk about the soul, they talk about the experience we have just now.

The Gita has three sections: first six chapters talk about myself, second six about god, and the last six the relation between myself and god.

My personal experience of the workshop
I didn't know much about this book, I read it 18 years ago, just the slokas, without comments.
I feel really lucky to study for the first time with Ramaswami, who constantly give the relation between Bhagavad Gita, Samkhya, Yoga sutras, Vedanta advaita and other important text coloured by Indian stories to make it more clear.

At the beginning it was a little bit difficult but, everyday my understanding grew. Ramaswami taught each sloka, word by word, but always he came back to the main ideas, to be clear and relate with different sections of the books.

The main difference between Bhagavad Gita and The Yoga Sutras is that the Yoga Sutras explains the means to develop a satvic mind. 

A very nice moment was the last class, when Ramaswami chanted all the slokas of the last chapter, and I could understand the sanskrit and relate to the meaning we have studied hours ago, that was awesome


Some quotes


"Do all your actions "karmas" before become a yogui. Do whatever it require to be done without letting the mind associate with the benefits of the actions. If we act in this way, we are free from the actions, if not, we become slaves of the actions".

"Everything we do if because we want to be happy. But, until I know myself, how can I know what i'm doing is right"?

"The senses are more powerful than the body, because they connect you to the outside world. Manas and ahamkara are more powerful than the senses. Buddhi, the intellect is more powerful than manas and ahamkara. And the most powerful is atman".


"The mind is like a plough, it needs to be very sharp in order to create a straight line in the earth. The mind that is not sharp, goes in different directions, never straight. The way to become the mind sharp is yoga".
Ramaswami

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Oscar invited me over to Leon, Spain give my first workshop on Vinyasa Krama and Krishnamacharya's original Ashtanga. See this post...


Behind the scenes - Giving a Krishnamacharya Yoga Workshop in Leon


Excellent Vinyasa Krama Tadasana sequence tutorial

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When I posted the Vinyasa tadasana sequence videos earlier in the week( LINK: Sequences. Vinyasa Krama and Ashtanga )I tried to add a voiceover , the sound however was dreadful. I thought about having another go but just came across this excellent series of tadasana tutorials by my dear friend from Ramaswami's 2010 teacher training Aruna. 

I love her work here, stripped back and understated.

There's also a seated sequence tutorial on her Youtube channel and perhaps more to come.

Here's a link to Aruna's website, screenshot at the bottom of the page.


R SHARATH JOIS - How yoga is being diluted world over - 10 quotes as well as the full article

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I've been looking forward to an in depth, 'on the record' article, interview or extended newsletter, from Pattabhi Jois' grandson Sharath for some time, rather than the pickings of a conference talk (from which students have now been asked not to share). I was presently surprised then to come across a brief article/interview attributed to R.Sharath Jois ('As told to Aravind Gowda.') this morning (perhaps related to the  rapidly becoming tedious, International yoga day thing coming up) Comment on some quotes from the article that gave me pause following the article.



How yoga is being diluted world over

R. Sharath Jois
for The Daily O

The world needs yoga now more than ever before. Look at the lifestyle of people worldwide. India too is no exception. It has become fast-paced, people are in a hurry to achieve multiple things because of the competitive world. Stress is being built up inside the body. Everyone is prone to stressful life. This is where yoga is useful in maintaining the balance of body and mind, improve focus in life, sharpen concentration and enjoy a peaceful life.

I have been teaching Ashtanga Yoga, which is one of the classical forms of yoga. The bases for practicing Ashtanga Yoga are vinyasa (breathing and movement system); tristhana (three places of action) and the elimination of "six poisons" - lust, anger, greed, delusion, pride and envy. Combined together, they can contribute to longevity of an individual.

Yoga can be practiced by anyone, whether young, old, very old, healthy or sick. Even so, the way in which a young person is taught will differ in manner from the way in which an old or sick person will be taught. Therefore, each student must be considered as an individual and taught at a pace that is suitable for their situation in life.

Unfortunately, world over yoga is being diluted under the garb of modern yoga. There is no such thing as modern yoga. Today, I see yoga being practiced in gyms, combined with aerobics, and in the Western world, it has taken a completely different form. The spiritual aspect of yoga is missing everywhere. In fact, spirituality and yoga are interlinked. You cannot take away spirituality from yoga and practise it. That will not be considered yoga at all… There is a dire need to revive classical yoga in its spiritual form, which I think is the authentic form of yoga. That's what I am trying to do, keeping the Ashtanga Yoga tradition alive before someone can lay claim over its modern version.

I am also appalled with the emergence of scores of yoga teachers and their schools with some basic and formal training. One cannot become a yoga teacher by taking up a one-month course or some certificate programme. Yoga is a way of life… A practice, which needs to be mastered by practising it six days a week rigorously in its purest form for at least three years. Now, that's when one can claim to be a yoga teacher.

According to me, knowledge can be transferred only after the student has spent many years with an experienced guru, a teacher to whom he has completely surrendered in body, mind, speech and inner being. Only then is he fit to receive knowledge. This transfer from teacher to student is parampara (tradition) and that is what is followed at our KPJAYI.

We make sure that whoever is practising Ashtanga Yoga and intends to promote it, has to mandatorily get trained under us for three years. Only then, we authorise them to teach Ashtanga Yoga in its original form, involving the spiritual aspects. (KPJAYI authorised yoga gurus are present in over 70 countries across five continents and they owe allegiance to the Ashtanga Yoga first introduced by K Pattabhi Jois).

Yoga is integral to our lives and I cannot imagine myself not practising yoga because it is one simplest natural ways of life that helps build the overall personality of an individual. Yoga offers better health, peace of mind and tranquillity, and above all emerge as a successful individual. My biggest inspiration is my grandfather and continuing in his footsteps has been a blessing to me.

(As told to Aravind Gowda.)



Comment

There are of course many respected senior voices in the Ashtanga community with many differing views and perspectives on the practice ( to lesser or greater degrees).  Sharath's of course is but one of those perspectives, albeit a respected one given the time he spent with his grandfather, so too is Sharath's uncle Manju Jois' ( who refers to himself as just a messenger ).... nobody defines Ashtanga vinyasa practice, that's for us to do on our mats each morning, but this is a fascinating, perhaps troubling, outline of some of Sharath's concerns all the same.

I picked out some quotes that gave me pause.

Quotes in italic, the briefest of comment from me in bold.

1. "Look at the lifestyle of people worldwide. India too is no exception. It has become fast-paced, people are in a hurry to achieve multiple things because of the competitive world". 

The Ashtanga R. Sharath Jois presents has itself surely become 'fast paced' (all those postures of full Primary series in an hour or roundabout - 50 or so postures in primary, many practice on both sides plus the surys ), it's focus on the physical aspect has arguably led to a competitive aspect.

2. "I have been teaching Ashtanga Yoga, which is one of the classical forms of yoga". 

Classical form? (Yoga Korunta myth?).
Interestingly the ever changing 'garb' of vinyasa yoga classes, though not my cup of tea, probably have more in keeping with the flexible nature of Krishnamacharya's loose groups of asana (Mysore 1934 and 1941) than the fixed series presented by his student Pattabhi Jois as 'Ashtanga vinyasa'.

3. "...each student must be considered as an individual and taught at a pace that is suitable for their situation in life".

This line I appreciated, perhaps when Mysore teaching is at it's best.

4. "Unfortunately, world over yoga is being diluted under the garb of modern yoga. There is no such thing as modern yoga. Today, I see yoga being practiced in gyms, combined with aerobics, and in the Western world, it has taken a completely different form".

Many of the 'garb's of modern yoga'(garb = fashion, mode of dress as in the 'garb of a monk') Sharath is referring to here are derived, often directly, from the approach to asana practice that Sharath's Grandfather, Pattabhi Jois, presented under 'Ashtanga vinyasa'. It is surely the over emphasis on the 'physical aspect 'of this practice at the expense of the other limbs that bares a great deal of responsibility for the perception and presentation of yoga that Sharath is criticising in the article. 

I would also argue that Pattabhi Jois' presentation of 'Yoga' was itself an unfortunate dilution of the yoga outlined by his own teacher Krishnamacharya in his book Yoga Makaranda and has resulted in Krishnamacharya's original teaching being mistakenly seen as and referred to, as'transnational postural yoga'(Singleton).

5. "In fact, spirituality and yoga are interlinked. You cannot take away spirituality from yoga and practise it. That will not be considered yoga at all…".

6. "There is a dire need to revive classical yoga in its spiritual form, which I think is the authentic form of yoga. That's what I am trying to do, keeping the Ashtanga Yoga tradition alive before someone can lay claim over its modern version".

I have no idea what sense of 'spiritual' is being referring to in 6. and 7. but I'm happy to go with... reflective perhaps introspective to be going on with. It's probably a relief to certain lawyers that this article didn't come out before the conclusion of the recent Encinitas school board 'yoga in schools trial'.

7. "I am also appalled with the emergence of scores of yoga teachers and their schools with some basic and formal training. One cannot become a yoga teacher by taking up a one-month course or some certificate programme. Yoga is a way of life… A practice, which needs to be mastered by practising it six days a week rigorously in its purest form for at least three years. Now, that's when one can claim to be a yoga teacher".

I am equally appalled (well perhaps slightly bemused) that practicing an asana sequence six days a week for three years would qualify one to teach 'Yoga' rather than merely the said sequence (was quite surprised Sharath mentioned only three years here, my understanding was that it tended to be longer). I'm actually uncomfortable with the idea that merely practicing the asana of a sequence and being assisted in some of these postures may be considered qualification enough ( without any anatomy training at all) to then assist and adjust in turn, somebody else's body (thankfully some Ashtanga shala's and teachers offer more rounded mentorships).

8. "According to me, knowledge can be transferred only after the student has spent many years with an experienced guru, a teacher to whom he has completely surrendered in body, mind, speech and inner being. Only then is he fit to receive knowledge".

I appreciate Sharath marking this with 'according to me' reflecting his own experience ( and understandable preference) of living with and learning from his Sanskrit scholar grandfather. Somebody who has been authorised on practicing one or more asana sequences for three years should perhaps be thought of as an asana (sequence) teacher rather than a yoga guru. Sharath himself brings in others to teach Yoga philosophy and yoga chanting classes in Mysore I believe. There are many excellent teachers in different disciplines, areas and aspects of yoga but few that we might be comfortable considering an all round 'yoga guru' encompassing so many aspects of Yoga, Krishnamacharya was perhaps one.

9. "We make sure that whoever is practising Ashtanga Yoga and intends to promote it, has to mandatorily get trained under us for three years. Only then, we authorise them to teach Ashtanga Yoga in its original form, involving the spiritual aspects".

See comments to 7 and 8 above.

10.  "I cannot imagine myself not practising yoga because it is one simplest natural ways of life that helps build the overall personality of an individual. Yoga offers better health, peace of mind and tranquillity, and above all emerge as a successful individual".

I agree, a fully integrated yoga practice based on the yamas and niyamas and including pranyama, pratyahra and a developing concentration/meditation practice alongside reflection on 'suitable', appropriate texts (from whichever culture) can be rewarding and most likely ( I would hope) benefit the individual....but a 'successful individual', I'm hoping this is a second language expression?



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Update

On another note and while we are being.... somewhat questioning, the Ashtanga vinyasa designed for young boys argument?

Yeah, it kinda was.

IMHO

Of course Krishnamacharya was also teaching Ashtanga vinyasa to grown ups ( so it's adaptable and I'm guessing this is Eddie's argument), but the approach his student Pattabhi Jois took (having taken the classes of the Young palace boys as Krishnamacharya's assistants) and that he then took into the Sanskrit college for the four year syllabus (more young boys, Pattabhi Jois' own daughter was I believe the first female students many years later) was clearly (historically) pedagogically designed for young boys.
Of course that doesn't mean it wasn't eminently adaptable to both sexes and all ages, shapes and sizes.

Quote 3 from above

3. "...each student must be considered as an individual and taught at a pace that is suitable for their situation in life".

Yoga, perhaps it's hardwired into us.

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Yoga, perhaps it's hardwired into us.

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...we don't always listen however.


to my original post




The Govt. of India's 35 min. Common Yoga Protocol, Video and pdf

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Indian PM Modi and 35, 000 others in Delhi yesterday practicing the 'Common yoga protocol'
The practice everyone was doing at the event above, including Indian PM. Modi, is based on a practiced produced by the Govt. of India  called 'Common Yoga Protocol', a 35 minute practice integrating asana, pranayama, pratyahara

They've also produced a free booklet

Example page below

LINK TO 35 page PDF




Yesterday's first International Yoga Day - UN Video, PM Modi in Delhi, Photos PLUS the 35 minute Common Yoga protocol video and pdf.

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UN video outlining the 21st June as International Yoga Day
http://webtv.un.org/watch/yogaday-celebrate-the-first-international-day-of-yoga/4307927817001


PM Narendra Modi performs Yoga at Rajpath on International Yoga Day.Over 200 million people across the world participated in events to mark the inaugural International Yoga Day on Sunday, with a record 37,000 people performing yoga asanas in the national capital alone.


There was pranayama of course



There was pratyahara too


Dharana ( Concentration )


There was even asana

salabhasana
Dwipadapitam (desk poses)
Ustrasna

and savasana, lots of savasana





The practice everyone is doing above is based on a practiced called the  'Common Yoga Protocol', a 35 minute practice integrating asana, pranayama, pratyahara and a sit offered by the Govt. of India


They've also produced a free booklet
LINK TO 35 page PDF

LINK TO 35 page PDF


And not just in India of course...


 to Photos of the event from around the world


YOGA GLOSSARY

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YOGA GLOSSARY


Linking to topics of Newsletters by Srivatsa Ramaswami
(student of T. Krishnamacharya for over 30 years)


Work in progress, might see about adding quotes or definitions from the newsletters.



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See this post with links to all the Newsletters in monthly order as well as downloadable volumes

http://grimmly2007.blogspot.jp/2015/06/srivatsa-ramaswami-newsletters-2009-2015.html

Shala spill over video - Ashtanga Led Primary at Casa vinyasa, Lisbon, Portugal. Also practicing along to Sharath's Live stream

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Blogs used to inspire us to get on the mat occasionally, didn't they? Back when it was a struggle, over coffee, we would jump around each others blog lists and hopefully hit on something that would help gird our loins for our first Sury or to face kapo or the duck...., occasionally we can still do with that little push, the video below gave me mine this morning.

Thank you to my dear friend Natasha Symeonidou  (http://www.ashtangayogathessaloniki.com/) for the fb Share this morning (my time) that charmed me.

PS. Manju is coming to Natasha's shala in Thessaloniki, Greece in September http://www.ashtangayogathessaloniki.com/

http://www.antoniochaves.com/fotografia-360-visita-virtual/casa-vinyasa/
I just saw the first video below of shala spill over from the beginning, will make you smile I think from a minute in..... would kind of like to practice in that kitchen.

Love the count in Portuguese and Sanskrit too

The second video is the inauguration of the Shala in 2009 I think, with Eddie Stern conducting a Ganesha Puja.

The third video is practicing along to Sharath on a big flat screen, I'm guessing the live stream from a couple of years back (NYC. 2011) that I happened to be practicing along at home at also. 

I don't know Isa Guitana but, what a nice shala, space, community, would love to practice there someday..... in the kitchen perhaps.











That stream doesn't seem to be still up but the one from Moscow still is.


Virtual tour of Casa Vinyasa


About the Shala



Virtual tour- http://www.casavinyasa.com/en/virtual-tour/#shala


July 2015 Newsletter from Srivatsa Ramaswami--Review

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My last 200 hr TT program in Vinyasakrama in US starts on 20th of July 2015 at LMU, and there are large open spaces available to spread the yoga mats on. Here is the link to register

http://academics.lmu.edu/extension/programs/vinyasa/teachers/

I hope to be able to do some shorter programs at LMU in the future.

In June I had the pleasure of teaching at East Side Yoga, Austin,TX for a week. It is run by my friend Steven Ross, who completed the 200 hr TT program at LMU a few years ago after which he started this studio where Vinyasakrama also is taught. I taught a workshop on Yoga for Internal Organs, a workshop on Vinyasakrama and also on Pranayama and meditation all of which were well attended. I also taught a 25 hr sutra by sutra Patanjali's Yogadarshana. Thank you Steven


I just completed teaching a four day workshop at the lovely Breathe Los Gatos Yoga studio in California of Jennifer Prugh. I taught a 18 hour Certificate program in Vinyasakrama yoga and a talk on Yoga for Internal Organs. Both were well attended and participation heartwarming. Thank you Jennifer


The Eye Does Not See
My friend Jaijot Kaur Jennie Eldridge-Benjamin Humans of New York's photo.and wrote in a facebook page
This is what one of the things we studied with Ramaswami Srivatsa last week in the Yoga Sutra immersion. Thought you might enjoy this Steven Ross Tyagaraja M. Welch

"We're eye doctors."
"What's something about the eye that most people don't realize?"
"The eye doesn't see. The brain sees. The eye just transmits. So what we see isn't only determined by what comes through the eyes. What we see is affected by our memories, our feelings, and by what we've seen before."
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Yes Yogasutra agrees with this. All the sensations through the senses, ears, eyes, skin, tongue, nose reach the brain as impulses as the modern science says. Then what goes to the brain is coordinated by manas an aspect of the brain, then colored by feelings by another center ahamkara and also analyzed by yet another center Buddhi and a composite picture is projected in the mental space. Further the brain adds another component. It receives impulses through the hundreds of nerves running through one's body and includes it in the projection as 'I' as we feel ourselves as we see the outside objects . YS does not agree though that the brain which projects also 'sees' the object. It is an instrument very versatile but has no consciousness to see. And that consciousness or unvarying awareness-distinct and different- they call it as the self or Purusha. The totality of our experience—what we see through the senses properly analyzed by buddhi and colored by the ego apart from the feeling of 'I' with this body that one experiences as oneself is the cittavritti or the projection of the mind of citta at a given moment. YS takes us several steps more in understanding how we see or experience.


Review of Bhagavatgota Yoga Program

My friend Anthony Hall has been unfailingly publishing my Newsletters in his very popular blog. This time I am reproducing, rather selfishly, the following review from his blog. Thank you Anthony, Chiara and Oscar.

Workshop Review: 70 hour sloka by sloka, Bhagavad Gita... as taught by Srivatsa Ramaswami (Guest post)

Thank you to my friends Chiara and Oscar for agreeing to share their thoughts on Ramaswami's recent (almost two week sloka by sloka Bhagavad Gita Intensive with Srivatsa Ramaswami.


Ramaswami will be teaching another (shorter) 25 hour  intensive on the Gita in Santa Monica July/August


from Chiara Ghiron. Siena, Italy


I studied with Srivatsa Ramaswami last year, attended the Core Vinyasa Krama week in London followed by a weekend on the subject of building a personal practice. I loved him, the way he explained the matter interspersed by small stories and his way of conveying an incredible amount of information in such a simple and understandable way.
So as soon as I heard of the Bhagavad Gita course organised by Steve Brandon at Harmony Yoga in Wells, I booked my place there.

It was going to be a real marathon, 13 days non stop, no āsana practice, no prānāyāma, nothing else but the full Bhagavad Gita śloka by śloka.
I wanted to attend mainly to be able to study more with Ramaswami and also because I was hoping he would make all possible connections with the Yoga Sutra and with Samkhya, since I had missed the opportunity to study these two texts with him the previous years.

I had read the Bhagavad Gita before, as it was a required text for my initial teacher training. We had to read a very simple and poetic version, the one by Stephen Mitchell, which was for me a real discovery. Ramaswami recommended the Annie Besant version for the course, which can be
downloaded free from the internet.

The basic story of this old text (400-300 BCE?) is the dilemma the prince-warrior Arjuna finds himself in, having to face the battle against his cousins and 
teachers to reconquer the kingdom which has been unjustly taken through deceit.
His charioteer reveals himself to be Krśna and he leads the reluctant Arjuna through the many reasons why he should fight the just war.
At the end of 18 chapters, having heard argumentation's based on Karma Yoga, Bhakti Yoga and Jñana Yoga, having seen the immense power of Krśna in an almost Bollywoodian parade of lives and deaths, Arjuna is finally convinced that he should fight.
While following Krśna patiently persuading Arjuna, we learn something about the underlying Samkhya philosophy, particularly how the qualities of matter influence our behaviours. We are explained that each should keep a behaviour in line to one's own inclination and law, and how Yoga practice can support us throughout our lives.

The course was not packed but I must say that there was a good number of people, 13 attendants for the full course length and a few additional ones for the initial weekend. People came especially from Brazil, the USA, Italy, Spain, plus of course from the UK. 'Foreigners' made up almost half of the participants. I must admit I was a bit perplexed at not seeing more people from the UK for such an important and unique event, but there you go.

Ramaswami kept a very tight 
schedule, 5 and a half hours a day, a couple of short breaks in the morning and the afternoon and a long-ish lunch break.
Every morning I had to re-tune my brain to sentences which were half Sanskrit and half English, but after 10 minutes words were starting to flow fluidly and were easy to follow. Ramaswami used a Bhagavad Gita text with just the Sanskrit ślokas and a transliteration, translating and commenting all along.
He first sang each śloka then translated it, then commented it.
I had the recently published translation by Georg and Brenda Feuerstein with me, which has a word-by-word translation at the end. It proved very useful in saving me from taking too many notes on the translation, allowing to focus on Ramaswami's comments.

I felt that the Vedantic influence of Ramaswami's background showed quite strongly in his reading, although he was very open to other interpretations and actually also recommended other commentaries, including Ramanuja's.
But he said that 'the best commentary of the Gita is the Gita itself' and I also appreciated the exhortation to always read a text with an open mind.
First read, try to see what the author has to say, do not let your preconceived ideas veil the original text.
Then, at a second reading, perhaps bring in your experience, your ideas.
This was very important advice for me, given the bad habit I have of already interpreting, forming an opinion, often before even completing the reading.

One aspect which Ramaswami stressed over and over, was that there is a time for everything.
We should prepare our passage towards a more introverted and speculative life after we have
completed our duties.
We should restrain from always starting new things, otherwise we'll find we never have time to stop and contemplate and prepare for our last days.
And given that our preponderant samskaras are the ones which will inevitably reappear at the time of death, better starting to work on them as soon as possible!

Ramaswami was incredibly accurate and very very good at timing the lectures. He always left enough time for discussion when time was needed and reined us in when we had to move faster on areas which had been covered already with different words. We finished right at the end of the last day, but we had some time to ask a few more questions.

Overall, it was an excellent course, very intense and it will take months before we can go through the whole text again and find the jewels which are hidden in the myriad of notes we all took.
It was never boring, and I could not believe how fast almost two weeks went by.
You may or may not resonate with the concept of a One and Only Underlying Reality, but the life-coaching that Krśna gives is invaluable, whichever your approach is to what is beyond this body.

It was an unforgettable experience and I think that whoever has the opportunity to study with him on the more theoretical aspects of Yoga should take it.
from Oscar Montero. Leon, Spainhttps://yogaleon.wordpress.com/blog/-


The Bhagavad Gita is a very easy way to explain the philosophy, for this reason it became a popular text. All the text tries to dissolve avydia in order to understand the consciousness. They don't talk about the soul, they talk about the experience we have just now. Thank You
The Gita has three sections: first six chapters talk about myself, second six about god, and the last six the relation between myself and god.
My personal experience of the workshop
I didn't know much about this book, I read it 18 years ago, just the slokas, without comments.
I feel really lucky to study for the first time with Ramaswami, who constantly give the relation between Bhagavad Gita, Samkhya, Yoga sutras, Vedanta advaita and other important text coloured by Indian stories to make it more clear.
At the beginning it was a little bit difficult but, everyday my understanding grew. Ramaswami taught each sloka, word by word, but always he came back to the main ideas, to be clear and relate with different sections of the books.The main difference between Bhagavad Gita and The Yoga Sutras is that the Yoga Sutras explains the means to develop a satvic mind. 
A very nice moment was the last class, when Ramaswami chanted all the slokas of the last chapter, and I could understand the sanskrit and relate to the meaning we have studied hours ago, that was awesome
Some quotes

"Do all your actions "karmas" before become a yogui. Do whatever it require to be done without letting the mind associate with the benefits of the actions. If we act in this way, we are free from the actions, if not, we become slaves of the actions".
"Everything we do if because we want to be happy. But, until I know myself, how can I know what i'm doing is right"?

"The senses are more powerful than the body, because they connect you to the outside world. Manas and ahamkara are more powerful than the senses. Buddhi, the intellect is more powerful than manas and ahamkara. And the most powerful is atman".

"The mind is like a plough, it needs to be very sharp in order to create a straight line in the earth. The mind that is not sharp, goes in different directions, never straight. The way to become the mind sharp is yoga".* Oscar.

Sincerely
Srivatsa Ramaswami

Just enrolled on Simon Borg-Olivier and Bianca Machliss' Essentials of Teacher Training Yoga Fundamentals Online course

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I've just in enrolled in Simon and Bianca's online Yoga Fundamentals course. I had a peek at  their Anatomy and Physiology course last year but was running around without an internet connection while waiting for my japan visa  and couldn't actually do the course, although i have their Anatomy and Physiology of Yoga text book.

A few months back I became fascinated with the Spinal sequence that Simon and Bianca posted on their blog last year and wanted more. That Spinal sequence series of videos makes up part of the fundamentals course.

http://fundamentals.yogasynergy.com/


 The course I'm on actually starts on 6th of July so you may have a few days to sign up if you want to join me, there are forum groups for the classes which you can take part in or not as you wish.

Looking through the materials it reminds me of the Online distance learning course I was doing at Nottingham last time I was in japan. That was an Ma in Linguistics but the set up was similar, online lectures, powerpoint presentations, reading materials, forums etc. This is all very professionally produced but then Simon and Bianca teach a course along these lines at the university so i imagine there is a lot of cross over of materials.

The main reason I'm taking it is that after meeting Simon in Turkey last year I'm fascinated by his approach to practice (we were both teaching at the Rainbow festival so this post where I was lucky enough to Interview Simon and talk about the breath http://grimmly2007.blogspot.jp/2014/05/interview-with-simon-borg-olivier.html).

He has an interesting background but it's how that background interacts with his years of practice and teaching that is interesting, Simon is a great experimenter putting all his research and discoveries to the test on and with his own body, an  explorer in fact and what else where those old yogis of the past

At the age of six, he was introduced to yogic breathing (pranayama) by his father George who taught him to swim underwater, and the main bandhas (internal locks) through a family friendship with Rhodesian Olympian Basil Brown. At the age of 17, he met a Tibetan Lama who introduced him to the philosophy and practice of Tantric Yoga. In 1985, Simon met his primary teacher Natanaga Zhander (Shandor Remete) with whom he studied for almost two decades. He has also studied with such internationally revered Indian teachers as BKS Iyengar, K. Pattabhi Jois and TKV Desikachar. Since 2007, Simon has been developing his yoga practice and understanding by studying with Master Zhen Hua Yang.

During the past 20 years, as well as running a successful yoga school, Simon has continued to both study and teach at the University of Sydney. Simon has completed a Bachelor of Science in Human Biology, a research-based Master of Science in Molecular Biology and a Bachelor of Applied Science in Physiotherapy. 

( and this link to Bianca Machliss  http://yogasynergy.com/main/bianca-machliss)

I'm interested in how I can bring Simon and Bianca's approach/research into my own practice, bring about a better understanding of whats going on in my body with those most subtle of movements, the vinyasa, as much as the asana themselves.

I once wrote a post on what I called the hidden asana, that all the variations of an asana that we often think of as preparation for an asana are asana in themselves and should be valued as such rather than dismissed as a cheat. Turns out that Krishnamacharya thought the same and we can see that in Ramaswami's teaching  But more........, that you could film your vinyasa and asana and then take a screenshot every second to and from the asana and that these would be hundreds of hidden asana, every one with their own subtle differences and I suspected benefits. My suspicion is that Simon and Bianca's course may give a sense of how true that actually is.

I thought it might be nice to do a series of posts as I work through the course so watch this space over the next 13 weeks.

Below are some screenshots.

The first is of the course resources...


http://fundamentals.yogasynergy.com/

The practice videos....

http://fundamentals.yogasynergy.com/

This is an example video from the spinal sequence but see this earlier post of mine where I look at his series  and Simon:s use of the breath in particular in more detail

The breath: Simon Borg-Olivier made me fall in love with asana all over again.



lectures....


http://fundamentals.yogasynergy.com/

and there are more besides. 

the link below takes you to this page where you can have a closer look at the materials. http://fundamentals.yogasynergy.com/

http://fundamentals.yogasynergy.com/




My interview with Simon, full post and the transcription here


See also

Preview of Simon's excellent book Applied Anatomy & Physiology of Yoga
http://anatomy.yogasynergy.com/book

Also information on Simon's Online Applied Anatomy and Physiology of Yoga

See also my earlier post on Simon's book

The nine bandhas (yes Nine) in the APPLIED ANATOMY & PHYSIOLOGY OF YOGA of Simon Borg-oliver and Bianca Machliss

And this just in a blogtalkradio interview today

Five Things that Block Energy and 10 Ways to Move Them With Simon Borg-Olivier

Unfortunately I don't think we cover the unsupported headstand in the course


Sustaining a Home practice by David Garrigues - Poster, Youtube video

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I may have changed the title of this blog from Ashtanga Jump back, to Ashanga Vinyasa Krama to Krishnamacharya's 'Original' Ashtanga Vinyasa Yoga to.... what is it currently,  Slow Ashtanga but one thing that has remained constant is that I've always kept  '.....at home' tagged on the end, This is a home practice blog. 

Delighted then to see this post from a senior, long term and indeed Certified Ashtanga teacher, David Garrigues, recognising, even perhaps encouraging home practice. Thank you for this David and also Joanne Darlington for designing the poster.


"Greetings,
I know that many of you who follow me are home practitioners and so I made this poster to help you maintain a strong home practice. I hope it helps! 
David
Poster designed by @ladyhawkzuzu 
designed by Joanna Darlington
Is there a bigger version of this poster anywhere?


Home practice can come to us all.

In my case it's a personal choice that I relish, for many though there is no choice,  nowhere to practice nearby or maybe you move house, far away from the shala, or your teacher's ambitions lead them elsewhere, perhaps we become teachers ourselves setting up our own shala having to practice alone at home before opening up.

Sharath himself of course practices home alone before opening the shala, just as his Grandfather Pattabhi Jois did for many years, as Krishnamacharya did, as Iyengar did.....


David: Also, you aren't going to believe it, but practicing alone, by myself, does inspire me in its own way. It is a very different inspiration than attending a class with a teacher. But, as I often point out to many students who have a home practice, the sacred texts say that yoga is to be practiced alone. I take that to heart because I have to, and it does suit me.I can tell you this: you wouldn't want me as your student. Ha! All joking aside, I do genuinely like practicing by myself. I find that important things happen for me when I practice in solitude, without anyone else around. - See more at: http://davidgarrigues.com/articleinspiresme.html#sthash.5INB4FJT.dpuf




LINK to Davids post


About David Garrigues

David Garrigues is the director of the Ashtanga Yoga School of Philadelphia. He is one of a few teachers in the US certified to teach Ashtanga Yoga by the late world renown yoga master Sri K Pattabhi Jois. As an Ashtanga Ambassador he bases his teachings on the idea that 'Anyone can take practice', a core idea in the teachings of Sri K Pattabhi Jois.



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see also perhaps



and 

on developing my home practice

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Yama and Niyama as support for home practice.

More and more I'm been thinking that the Yama and Niyama's, the Yoga guidelines for life and practice, can go a long way in helping us to maintain the.... physical, mental, emotional environment for practice (home or otherwise). 
Perhaps we need to consider putting some or all of them in place, to lesser and greater degrees, early rather than later, while still in the first flush of excitement for practice so as to offer support later.


The 'letter' below from my Yama Niyama post
Post includes Krishnamacharya on yama/niyama, Ramaswami, Pattabhi Jois...


Every now and again I feel obliged to write a..... confessional post, practice has been  good for  many years but I know many of readers of the blog struggle at times with their practice, so if and when I do hit a bump in the mat I kinda feel I should share, not really fair not to.

So practice at the moment is a struggle, it's easy to blame the season, the cold, disruption in routine but this practice, after this amount of years,  shouldn't be dependent on such things, should it?

It's revealing though. I wrote recently that the practice sets the routine that leads to discipline, that the discipline is tapas and thus preparation for yoga. We might slip occasionally but the presumption is that we just go back to the routine, to the mat, reforge the discipline and off we go again, however many times we may slip.

I'm starting to think I was mistaken or at least missing or rather forgetting a step, two of them in fact, the yamas and niyamas.

It used to be said that you should work on the yamaniyama and then, as they become established, move on to asana and pranayama practice.

Current thinking in the Ashtanga vinyasa tradition is that you begin with asana and as you develop some discipline the yamaniyamas will automatically begin to blossom.

That may be so, but they need tending and it strikes me that if you do tend to them then they may also offer support for your discipline in return.

If you don't tend them however then it can be more disruptive than all the other external factors or rather the external factors are free to reign havoc upon your practice.

So yes, start with Asana and as that practice becomes established, while in the first flush of excitement and fixation on the practice start looking to the yamaniyamas, play with the different descriptions we may find for them and consider how they reflect the ethics of our own cultural traditions, that we could perhaps be paying more attention to.

And then tend them.

That's the practice after we step off the mat, and we say that don't we, that we should carry the practice off of the mat into our daily lives. That doesn't mean popping out back at lunchtime to practice navasana ( although a little pranayama won't go amiss), it means we continue to work with yamaniyamas.

And at the end of the day as we lay in bed my teacher Ramaswami suggested we reflect back on the day in relation to them not to judge but just to notice, tomorrow is another day.

I could have done better recently, with all the disruptions of the year, the parting from loved ones, the restlessness I could have tended them more and perhaps I would have been less restless, practiced more discrimination and that may have offered  more supported to my physical practice.

As it it I feel like I'm starting all over again, minimal maintenance  practice has been minimal too often this year and hasn't maintained the practice that well. I feel heavy, sluggish, restless, impatient, breath and bandhas have suffered as a result.

And so it's been back to basics, to the sequence, the count, to each breath, each stage of the breath and  to bringing yamaniyama back into the time off the mat and with more resolve.




Above see this THIS post

...and yet I also find myself missing practicing here, up there at the frount and over on the right,  home from home, Kristina Karitinou's summer shala in Rethymno, Crete


some shala posts



feet/knees/Legs together backward bending, Ustrasana, kapotasana and drop back

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Reading Ramaswami's post on legs together backward-bending this afternoon reminded me of giving these a trya few years back, (videos below) disconcerting but doable although I quickly went back to the more stable knees apart approach. 

Looking forward to week nine of the  Yogasynergy Fundamentals of Yoga Course when we look more closely at backward-bending, may come back to this post then with more to add.

Here's Ramaswami's fb post.

"....To involve the entire spine including the sacro-coccygeal portion, it may be good to keep the legs (thighs) together in back bends like urdwadhanurasana, bridge pose, dhanurasana, ushtrasana and several others. Keeping the legs/thighs together helps to open the pelvis and not the hips. In several back bends my guru would ask us to keep the legs together". Ramaswami Srivatsa

Pictures of Ranjit Babu and Tatiana Popova from "Complete Book of vinyasa Yoga"


LINK to google preview




And see my permeant Srivatsa Ramaswami and Vinyasa Krama Resource Page at the top of the blog.


Dwipadapeetam
"This posture which is casually practiced with the feet apart and thighs spread out leaves
out the the spine in the pelvic region. Hence it is necessary to keep
the feet together, tighten the gluteal muscles, draw in the rectum and
gently push the tailbone/sacrum up and feel a healthy stretch at the
bottom of the spine. Any back bending done without fully involving the
sacro coccygial region is a less efficient back bend and tends to put
more strain on the lumbar spine". 



The video below is from this earlier post which includes the pea in the bellybutton trick for a more royal kapotasana.






Dropping back feet and legs together

There is also the suggestion of a feet together drop back and return in Ramaswami's book, interestingly, coming back up on the exhalation. I remember this scared the bejesus out of me


The above video comes from this post on one of my other sister blogs



Argument
from THIS post

In Ramaswami's Sept 11 Newsletter, on Spinal exercise, he writes about performing backbends with the feet, knees and thighs together. He doesn't mention Kapotasana or the dropback back I wonder if the same reasoning applies.

The relevant section is below, the full newsletter can be found HERE and an illustrated version of the Spinal exercise article including the exercises HERE

'For the back bending exercises it is necessary to protect the lumbar
spine. Towards that, the flexibility and the strength of the sacro-
coccygeal region is to be necessarily cultivated. The pelvic push is
efficiently facilitated by a simple but effective asana called
dwipadapeetam (pages109-115) or desk pose . This posture which is
casually practiced with the feet apart and thighs spread out leaves
out the the spine in the pelvic region. Hence it is necessary to keep
the feet together, tighten the gluteal muscles, draw in the rectum and
gently push the tailbone/sacrum up and feel a healthy stretch at the
bottom of the spine. Any back bending done without fully involving the
sacro coccygial region is a less efficient back bend and tends to put
more strain on the lumbar spine. Again my Guru used this posture to
teach to almost anyone. This upward pelvic push is to be done on
inhalation generally but, it can be done while exhaling smoothly by
the elderly, the obese, the pregnant, the highly strung etc. Because
the feet and back of the head are well anchored it becomes easy to
control the back bend very well and one can improve the stretch step
by step. Other poses that are in this group would be catushpada peetam
or Table pose ( page79 ) and Purvatanasana or the anterior stretch
pose (pages78,79). The other back-bends in the prone poses such as
Bhujangasana, dhanurasana and salabhasana (pages 138-145) also may be
done with the thighs and feet together to keep the sacrum and tailbone
engaged and stretchered. To ensure this condition, the teacher may ask
the student to keep the feet and thighs together by placing a piece of
paper between the feet  and not let the paper drop to the floor while
raising the legs up in asana like Salabhasana. In these prone
exercises keeping the legs together enables to exercise all parts of
the spine, especially the oft neglected sacro-coccygeal area.'

from Ramaswami's September 2011 Newsletter



New Rule: To study with Sharath in Mysore you have to have been with an Authorised teacher min. 2 months

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People don't seem to see this as a big deal but it feels like the end of an era. Perhaps it was naive of me but I'd held on to the idea that the Mysore Shala and Sharath, as Pattabhi Jois' grandson, represented everyone who practiced Ashtanga, whatever period and with whomever they began their practice be that in a shala or in their bedrooms with Yoga Mala, as well as whatever form their practice happened to take. I'd hoped all would be welcome. I guess we still have Manju Pattabhi Jois​ for that and hopefully Saraswati. 

I can't help but feel that Sri K Pattabhi Jois would have been as saddened by this as I am. 


Home Ashtangi's may well feel a bit excluded by the new rule change.


Well, we all knew he would have to do something about the numbers visiting Mysore.... but this?


"4. Students who are applying for Sharath’s class must have studied at least 2 months with any of our Certified/Authorized teachers( mentioned in our teachers list) before coming to study with Sharath in Mysore Shala."

Many who happen to fit this new criteria will no doubt welcome it as meaning less competition for places and thus improving their chances of being accepted into the shala for their preferred dates.



I'm not convinced this was the best response, surely there were other options (see links at the end of the post). 


“No one owns Yoga,” said Sharath Rangaswamy, the grandson of the late Ashtanga Yoga guru, Sri K. Pattabhi Jois.
Sharath paused comfortably, sanguinely sitting in lotus. He looked around the room, and then continued, “You don’t own it. I don’t own it. No one owns it.” LA Yoga

"No one owns Yoga...." and yet Ashtanga practice feels a little more controlled this morning, a little more corporate. Only those who visit Mysore and practice with Sharath for an extended period may become authorised and only those who have studied with an authorised teacher may practice with Sharath in Mysore.

Bit of a bugger of course if you have no authorised teacher near you but are a committed Ashtanga practitioner and have been dreaming of making the trip.

I know of several students who practice at home and travel down to London to practice at the weekends with authorised teachers, sure there are similar stories for all the major towns/cities with Ashtanga schools, people who visit when and where they can.

Does the odd weekend, when you can manage it, over a two month period count or do you need to show evidence of two, month long six-day a week passes, it's a little unclear, slightly vague.

How long before it becomes six months or a year or six months within the last year?

It's been mentioned that Sharath is considering asking for a letter of recommendation from an authorized or certified teacher, this however isn't currently in the new guidelines and may just be an option under consideration.

Before his passing BKS Iyengar asked for students to have practiced with one of his authorised teachers for 8 years. 

Think mums juggling kids, work and home,....some can miraculously swing it if they have a shala nearby and a very understanding and helpful partner but then of course chances are they might not have the opportunity to visit Mysore till the kids are grown anyway. But then chances are they might not be able to swing a full month in Mysore, Saraswati is an option and who better to take you back to scratch.

Saraswati

See the quotes from the end of the post lifted from Ashtangaparampara, recently authorised and certified teachers who went to Mysore without having practiced with authorised teachers.

And what if your teacher is no longer on the list  ( I just checked somebody who was on and then off is back on again and somebody else now off, one can't keep up) or never on the list in the first place, or never bothered to become or seek authorisation ( Manju seems less concerned about authorisation, you learn the practice and then pass it along. I've never liked the idea of authorisation personally, my understanding was that it was not really Pattabhi Jois' idea/intention either but was somewhat pressed upon him by certain early teachers). And several very senior and long term Ashtanga teachers are not on that list although on the original Ashtanga.com list. Not naming names but it's ridiculous to think that somebody who has studied for years with a senior teacher who studied with Pattabhi Jois for decades isn't invited/welcome.

Is Manju on the KPJAYI List ? (Yes)

I've been asked many times over the years why I have never been to Mysore, never quite sure why exactly so the answer has probably changed each time. Now at least I have an easy answer, I haven't studied with an Authorised teacher for the required two months so am not welcome.

Typically, around this time of year I've been thinking about making the trip (it was Krishnamacharya's city after all), but to practice with Saraswati rather than Sharath ( no slight on Sharath but I'm unlikely to stay for the full month, prefer a small shala and from interviews and I have a soft spot for Saraswati) as far as I can tell this proscription only applies if you want to practice with Sharath (for now at least).

Saraswati

Unfortunately it may mean demand to practice with Saraswati may go up and it might be harder to get into her shala.

We really must try and persuade Manju to stay in one place somewhere for a month.


No doubt the coming uproar over this will lead to it being changed and more enlightened solution to the numbers applying will be sought.

Somebody needs to set up a petition perhaps.

But of course there wont be that much of an uproar we're very good at living inside our own little bubble of self justification and mythologising, we try not to think about it too much in case it turns out to be a Chimera, because we put so much effort into our practice we tend to be defensive as hell.

Of course there are several other excellent options for practicing Ashtanga in Mysore, I've featured several here in the past and will ad some post links later.

I also strongly recommend you take one (or more) of Pattabhi Jois' son Manju's workshops/intensives/teacher trainings (http://www.manjujois.com/). I've been to two of his TTs and a workshop day and desperately wish I could make it to his Intermediate TT in Athens later this year too, as well as asana you'll get to practice pranayama with him and chanting too ( even if you sit next to somebody loud and just open and close your mouth - did that the first time but was into it by the 2nd). It's old school, just like his father taught him and Saraswati back in the 50s.

As well as attending one of Manju's workshops you could also 'Keep calm, grab a frappe and visit Greece).






Or go spend a month or two with Kristina Karitinou in her summer shala in Rethymno Crete and have her work your asana off

http://www.yogapractice.gr/




The video below was filmed while I was visiting Kristina's shala for Manju's teacher training (that's me in the bandana) 2013, Hyon Gak Sunim, a monk in the Korean Zen tradition was also there and offering chanting in the morning at Kristina's house.

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Just home from work, now that's out of my system I'm jumping on the mat for  my 1/2 primary 1/2 Intermediate.



Appendix


I'm reminded of a couple of the Ashtangaparampara interviews where some of the interviewees talk about being taken through the whole sequence from scratch by Sharath.....  here are just the first couple I found before I had to run out for dinner.

Feel free to add your own story of visiting the Mysore Shala with less than the new criteria in the comments.


"It wasn't until I made it to Mysore, India, in February of 2004, that I had the full experience of practicing in an actual “Mysore class.” So my first real Ashtanga teachers were Guruji and Sharath. I guess I’m one of the fortunate ones to have made my way to Mysore early on in my experience with the practice. I showed up in Mysore with very little prior teachings or influences, so it was easy for me to take in every little bit of detailed information I received from Guruji or Sharath without question."Ashtanga parampara - Harmony Lichty Certified Ashtanga teacher



"I decided to try an Ashtanga yoga class in my local gym in Dublin... I was very fortunate that I went straight to Mysore to learn the practice directly from Guruji and Sharath."
Ashtanga parampara Gillian Mooney. Authorised Ashtanga teacher.



"Going to Mysore as a complete beginner was the best decision I could have made."AshtangaParampara. Caroline Simpson Authorised.



"Did you learn the Mysore practice at KPJAYI when you visited India with your daughter? Can you please share that experience with us? 

"I can honestly say I learned the Mysore practice in depth. I was very green and stiff, so stiff I could not do Marychyasana D without assistance, the second day practice, I got tapped on the shoulder, and told to go upstairs, where we did finishing postures. I remember tossing and turning all night wondering if I should go home, my ego was bruised. I stayed. That was in 1999, when Guruji and Sharath were in the small shala, sometime after that Guruji would sit in front of me and take me through the rest of the postures of primary series, I was meant to stay a month, and stayed for 7 weeks, and have been back 11 times. It is something one never forgets, his consistency, compassion, love, and energy. What more can one say!" 
Ashtangaparampara . Lynne Pinette. Authorised


"I learned Ashtanga at a non-traditional studio, where we had one Mysore style class per week and all the other classes were taught as Led Primary. My initial trip to KPJAYI was literally my first foray into daily Mysore practice - what a way to start! But it was the getting there that I think really had the largest impact. When I went to Mysore I only knew one person who had gone before. She was incredibly helpful and got me connected so that I could set up accommodation and taxis, but otherwise, I was kind of flying blind. I had no idea what to expect".
Ashtangaparampara. Anna Muzzin Authorised


"I went to Mysore in 2004, where I met Guruji and my current Ayurvedic doctor (Anil Kumar). At that time, I was still not strong enough to practice the recommended 5-6 days a week. We decided I would practice 4 days a week. Guruji told me which days to practice and he and Sharath began teaching me second series within a week or two. They taught me the series pretty quickly. It was shocking, as I had only practiced primary up to that point."
Ashtangaparampara. Magnolia Zuniga Authorised



Final thoughts

“No one owns Yoga,” said Sharath Rangaswamy, the grandson of the late Ashtanga Yoga guru, Sri K. Pattabhi Jois.
Sharath paused comfortably, sanguinely sitting in lotus. He looked around the room, and then continued, “You don’t own it. I don’t own it. No one owns it.” LA Yoga


No one owns Yoga....  and yet Ashtanga practice feels a little more controlled this morning, a little more corporate. Only those who visit Mysore and practice with Sharath for an extended period may become authorised and only those who have studied with an authorised teacher may practice with Sharath in Mysore.



Some other viewpoints







Alternative solutions ?

My personal favourite solution to increased numbers applying to practice with Sharath in the big Shala in  Mysore is to restrict those visits  to once every two years, problem solved.



See also perhaps my earlier posts on the board of trustees and Ashtanga training centres idea (perhaps headed by certified teachers, why certify them otherwise).

Ashtanga Certification: Includes a list of Certified Ashtanga teachers* - Manju in Athens 2015 and a new Ashtanga Parampara interview

Turning Ashtanga's KPJYI into KPJYF, a charitable foundation?

Consistency and compatibility: A response to criticisms of Ashtanga Vinyasa PLUS a 'lost' photo and Surynamaskara and pranayama in puja



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